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Caulker out of control

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by valleyswan, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. valleyswan

    valleyswan Active Member

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    Been hearing things about him again being out of control, and loosing a lot of money in bookies and casinos and getting pissed down wind street, from a few mates who know him a little and some other players. Don't know what to make of it as he is a class player and should be representing our club's clean image. Do you think Brendan should be reining him in as he's only 20, or is that beyond his responsibility ?
     
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  2. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    While he's with us I'd have thought it he was Brendan's/club's responsibility, him being with us is not just about how he develops as a player but also a person.Hard to see where this will end up if it's true.There was a very small comment on talksport yesterday morning about Wayne Roudledge twittering about deleting a fellow team mate from his black berry messenger ,any connection I wonder
     
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  3. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Typical, you take an impressionable youngster from the the little London and show him the bright lights of Swansea and he can't handle it! :D

    On a serious note, he is young and he'll learn. I just hope he doesn't do anything too stupid like Nathan Dyer <whistle>
     
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  4. valleyswan

    valleyswan Active Member

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    He should be getting his head down and concentrating on his football only, he is likely to be with you next season and if he's like this in Swansea, what will he be like in London where his head can be turned very easily ? After his arrest last year I thought he had learned lessons, so maybe not ?
     
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  5. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    Most of the players gamble amounts we could never afford and they often go out and get pissed after games in wind street , we often here different stories and There is very often an element of artistic licence attached too,nothing to worry about i reckon <ok>
     
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  6. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    That'd be the ideal but he's a young guy with money, which if anything makes him more prone to mistakes. As long as the club punish him when he gets out of line then he will learn eventually.
     
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    aswan_dam Well-Known Member

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    Probably he was so gutted that he couldn't play for his beloved Swans this weekend that he had to go out and let off steam?
     
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  8. valleyswan

    valleyswan Active Member

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    I am talking about losing money into the 5 figures , he is 20 and shouldn't be like this on the back of our club, don't think the club should be letting this go on I think.
     
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    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    IF it's happening the Rodgers should sort it. It's his responsibility until he goes back.
     
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  10. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    People with way to much money spending it foolishly ........ BRING IT ON !!
     
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  12. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    5 figures could be 10k of his monthly wage, which could be about 20% of his total monthly income, its extremly hard for us to get our heads around it but its probably not a fortune to Caulker. Spending 20% of his income on enjoyment seems reasonable to me. I've never ever gambled in my life,not even on the grand national and i think its a fools game, but thats just me. ive never met a poor bookie, which tells its own story !!

    Im not so sure how much of an issue it is TBH, alot of the swans gamble and nt many footballers can handle more than 2 pints so they always seem like they have been drinking alot more than they actually have. Intresting post non the less and could well be 100% spot on.

    My view in these situations is that there are always 3 sides to every story, there will be caulkers side, the fans who saw him side and the truth,which will be in the middle of it all ! <ok>
     
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  13. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I remember asking him a few questions when I was a youth-team player; silly stuff like whether you could hear your team-mates in front of a big crowd.

    &#8220;Now, I&#8217;ve played in front of 60,000 at Emirates Stadium and I&#8217;ve found that I can communicate.&#8221; - To be fair you could hear a mouse fart at the Emirates :D
     
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  14. valleyswan

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    It's more like 50% of his income as there is taxes and other things to pay, but not getting down to semantics, he is wasting his money big time and should be brought down to reality rather quickly. I also don't gamble as there is no interest for me , but do realise that some people have addictive natures I just hope that this young man will be given some lessons on the position he occupies, he is a role model and should act as one.
     
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  15. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    True. But can't he spend his money as he wants? His involvement with the law recently should be roundly criticised but gambling? Sounds a bit victorian to me. 'Out of control' is rather emotive too.
     
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  16. valleyswan

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    How many players have lost almost everything or even everything because of stuff like this ? It's a slippery slope that starts off young and continues until it's nipped in the bud! Yes it's his money and it's up to him, but look at chopra losing millions because nobody was helping him off the field.
     
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  17. Kifflom!

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    Chop-ya is an extreme example but you're right - the dangers are there. But where is the evidence of addiction in Caulker's case? Player welfare is no doubt Rodgers' responsibility and he wouldn't be out of line in having a word in his shell-like. But he's ultimately free to do what he likes provided it doesn't bring the Club into disrepute. If he's staggering down Wind Street every weekend that certainly qualifies.
     
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  18. Norway-jack

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    Thats what i dont quite understand here, who is to say what is a slippery slope ? we have no idea what his income is which will probably include appearence and win bonuses on top of a wage, fact is that he is performing well on the field and has been very consistant, so what ever goes on in his social life hasnt affected his day job, that is the primary concern.

    If he wants to spend his money gambling then its up to him, its not for us to speculate on the rights or wrongs of it really, he may have won a fortune the week before and decided to use/throw away those winnings later on ?? half the stuff you hear about players is exagerated anyway, it would be more shocking if a prem footballer ISN'T gambling !! <laugh>
     
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    How many people on here would like it if their employer told them to stop having a flutter?
     
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  20. valleyswan

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    Most people would consider being a football player is a different kind of job to everything else, he is earning a lot of money yes, but having a lot of money comes with responsibilities especially when you are in the lime light as he is.

    As a young man who is playing for our club I think the swans should be looking after him, more than what they seem to be doing right now. He has a problem it seems and losing many thousands in a few minutes is not having a little flutter, it's called hard core gambling! And it is a slippery slope in my opinion.
     
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