I would be sad to see the boy leave, but on the other hand what an opportunity for him: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14073785.stm £250,000 is a much better deal than the cheeky £50,000 we got for Bolasie who had a better season in my view. Still any thoughts?
Sorry hobo, no thread when I looked, you beat me by nine minutes..............personally hard to understand........his wages couldn't have been that high...........and we hear that Peter Reid was after Fowler, and nearly got him..........surely he wouldn't have joined for peanuts just to do his coaching badges ? If Heaneys Phantoms had paid us the £700.000 they still owe us from the exclusivity deal, would we need to accept only £250.000 for Mason ???
I think Mason did not shine as well as he did in 09/10 season, last season. He looked a bit tired at times and the opposition were too strong for him, the lack of rest due to the depleted squad probably did not help - but having said that I think he would have been good this season given the chance. Still he may not accept the offer.
Mason is a young physically developing player. Unfortunately because of Plymouth's needs last season, Mason was probably overworked, and wasn't he carrying an injury in the latter part of the season as well ? £250.000 is a snippet and he should not go for such a meagre sum.
Plymborn you keep suggesting that the bidders haven't paid monies due. The last I heard Guilfoyle say was that they had made the payments he expected. Do you have any evidence they are in arrears?
Thats right the monies have been paid what Guilfoyle expected............if the £700.000 has been paid I've missed it. I would check thru the reams of paperwork if I had time but I've got to go out now.
OK, good so it's not overdue until Guilfoyle says so then, which he hasn't, so far. I listened to the radio interview on the BBC website. All that happened was that the interviewer repeatedly tried to get Guilfoyle to discuss specific sums, which he wasn't going to do. What what he did say absolutely clearly was that at that time he'd received all the sums he'd been expecting i.e. the bidders were up to date. He was also pressed to reveal what he knew about the identity of the bidders, which he also clearly wasn't going to do, but he stated categorically that he was happy he knew all he needed to know. I also haven't heard Ridsdale make any complaint about the situation. This may not satisfy the fans' desire for information and funds for the club but there's nothing in at all to suggest there's been any departure form the various agreements. Unless anyone has seen anything I've missed.............
Cardiff Fan here Just wanted to know your opitinions of this lad, have read the thread so far and not alot is said of what type of player, strengths/weakness etc, so just wanted to know what the lads like. I disagree with a few of your earlier poster about the transfer fee, I think £250k for an unproven young 'un from L2 is alot of money, but I do think it would be fair, and I would hope given the financal situation your in, a sell on clause would be included. Anyways just wanted to hear some Plymouth fans opinions on the lad. Good luck for the season, sympathise totally with what has happened to your club the last few years, we used to have some tough games at Home Park just a few years ago. Hopefully these might return in a few years in the Prem
Distant, look on Pasoti and there is an article on there about the last meeting, i think it was yesterday, its an interesting read.
Joe The opinions on PASOTI are just opinions, like ours here. I was asking about actual evidence that the bidders haven't kept their bargain. I may well have missed something and if so I'll stand corrected but I haven't heard either Guilfoyle or Ridsdale say that payments haven't been made as scheduled - in fact the last thing I saw from Guilfoyle said they WERE as he'd been expecting. If they haven't said there's been default, then who else has the foggiest? There's enough alarm & despondency around PAFC without unfounded rumour mongering. Just because what's been paid doesn't strike people as being enough doesn't mean to say there's been default - it just means the agreement isn't what people would wish for.
notDistantGreen.........the meeting was addressed by the Senior Administrator............... Brendan Guilfoyle at the meeting gave an overview of how at present things where..............He clearly stated that the preferred buyers had handed over £300.000 during the WHOLE process............that is from the horses mouth the man himself.........not hearsay.........not a third party........clearly stated by the one man who should know. He also said that once the agreement had been signed by all three parties they would be moving towards completing the sale. He said that that meant the time of exclusivity was over, so where the hell is the rest of the payment, £700.000 !!! We where led to believe that the second milestone payment would be the same as the first......£200.000.....but in the end it was only £100.000.........Guilfoyle said he was satisfied. My feeling is that Guilfoyle at this late stage doesn't want to rock the boat, Heaneys Phantom buyers are in control of the speed of how things develop. Peter Ridsdale obviously is not in a position to force proceedings.........remember he gets the football club for £1. It is not in Guilfoyle's or Ridsdale's interest to have hold-ups at such a late stage, when completion is so near..........as long as the £1 million is eventually paid. If I am reading the state of play wrong......then please enlighten this old doddering fool and show me when the £700.000 was paid over.
One question before everyone goes off half cocked about the preferred bidders and whether they have or have not failed to honour any agreement. Exactly what was the agreement in the first place that we know? As far as I am aware there were sums mentioned but there was no mention of how much would be paid when and where. I have not seen any documents released or statements made that mentioned any of these. The second point is that we are highly unlikely ever to see the exact terms that were agreed. I do hope that whatever those terms were have been honoured and whatever payment is still due is paid and on time. There has been plenty of screaming from Ridsdale throughout this process regarding various people failing to do this or that and he has not to my knowledge said anything derogatory regarding the Irish bidders or their lack of honouring anything. It is the only thing I have to base any opinion on so therefore I am giving them the benefit of the doubt unless anything does come out to counteract that.
I forgot the subject of the thread in my scriblings. My opinion is that £250k is not an unreasonable fee for somebody of Mason's limited experience. Why do people think he is suddenly this budding star worth twice that? He has shown some promise but has not exactly set the world on fire. He was more like a boy lost in the latter parts of last season and did very little to shine. I understand he was carrying an injury and was in essence forced into playing because of the state of the squad where normally he would have been allowed to come through the injury by resting it and treatment. Maybe that is why I saw little to shout about in his case. I find the sort of statement that DS has made regarding selling silver for the price of scrap to be laughable at best. Not so long ago he was berrating the entire squad. Since then however he has accused the club of disposing of all of the "superstars". Yet another change of tack.
At the start of administration exclusivity had been agreed at £1 million. We expected,(don't ask me why) that it would be paid up front in one payment and I thought other bidders thought that as well. Then the preferred bidder was chosen,and then we were told they would pay in three milestone payments. Three even payments, not so, there was surprise that the first payment was only £200.000. The second payment would be similar ! no only another £100.000. So £700.000 when exclusivity was complete.......it doesn't seem so. When the transaction is totally finished, I hope so..............it's always been as clear as mud........not user friendly if your an Argyle follower At the end of the day lets just hope that it does get finally paid.....but clarity would have been nice.....seeing we are dealing with Heaneys Phantoms.
I agree that it would have been better to have been upfront with everyone so that we all, including the great unwashed, would know what was to be paid and when. But, since when has any fan been included in anything important. However, we don't know and are hardly likely to see any of the paperwork. And joe I agree with you also.
