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Cardiff Red Copy-Cats...

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  1. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    This article will explain all,they are going to emulate us and turn RED.....

    Cardiff City to be rebranded..Mon, 07 May 2012 18:49
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    Apologies for the anonymous nature of this message, which will be my one and only post on this subject. Please be assured that the information contained herein is genuine and now this is out in the open, direct questions need to be asked of our club.

    Now that the curtain has come down on Cardiff's season, there is some very important news that everyone needs to be made aware of. In recent weeks, deals have been agreed with Cardiff's largest creditors, which paves the way for the Malaysians to take full control of the club during the summer. Bankrolled by Vincent Tan, manager Malky Mackay will be provided with a war chest to take Cardiff to the Premier League, stadium expansion plans will go ahead and a multi-million pound training facility will be built. All this may sound like everything we have been waiting for, but there is one bitter pill to swallow. Cardiff City is about to be completely re-branded in a manner whuch goes against a century of our history.

    Cardiff City will play in red next season. The dragon will become the major emblem on the club badge and the stadium will literally turn red. This change has been ordered by Vincent Tan and a red home kit and blue away kit have already been agreed for next season. The club intend to announce these changes over the next few days.

    The investment into Cardiff City by the Malaysians over the last two years has been very welcome and almost certainly saved us from going into administration. It now seems that they are ready to take the next step and assume full control, but intend riding roughshod over our identity and changing our football club into something none of us will recognise or be able to identify with.

    Cardiff City have played in blue since 1908. We won the FA Cup and competed in the top flight in those colours, we are the Bluebirds. A huge part of our identity, history and tradition are bound up in the colours, badge and nickname of the club.

    The Malysians MUST NOT be allowed to proceed with these plans and destroy decades of history and tradition. There may be some fans that say so what, it doesn't matter what colour we play in as long as the club is progressing. Well if that is the case, just why do they want to change our identity? It smacks of a lack of knowledge of what a football club consists of and begs the question of what other changes are planned?

    What's next? A change of name? Will we become the Cardiff Dragons? Hasn't the example of the local rugby club changing its colours, badge, nickname and ground yet losing its identity and much of its fanbase taught us anything?

    These plans have pressed ahead without any consultation. Mr Tan, we are glad to have you involved with our foootball club, but not at the expense of our history. Sam Hammam aired similar ideas but ultimately listened when the club's support objected en masse.

    Steve Borley, as a man we can trust on the current board of directors, we need you to publically condemn these plans. Malky Mackay, you have united the fans behind you this season and as man who knows of the importance of tradition at football clubs, we need you to speak out and impress upon our investors that these plans need to be nipped in the bud before it's too late. To the local press, the new Labour led Cardiff Council and our local MP's and AM's, we need you to use whatever influence you can wield to ensure that the traditions of the City's football club are upheld.

    Now is the time for the various supporters groups, rival messageboards and Cardiff fans from all walks of life to unite and ask the football club to come clean about their plans. They need to understand in no uncertain terms that we will not support a re-branded Cardiff City, no matter what the consequences may be. I would rather support my team playing in League Two rather than a team I no longer recognise as my own. Cardiff City play in blue, we are the Bluebirds.

    C'mon You REDS.......
     
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  2. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    Can't see that happening, but imagin all the fans that have bluebird tattoos.

    If it does happen, this could be the start of things with oversees investments they have no understanding of clubs heritage.
     
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  3. Red Robin

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    Imagine us being told to play in blue.

    This is completely crazy, and I would not want the true identity and colours of my club played with.

    This is getting very dangerous,playing with a clubs identity and history,all Cardiff fans need to unite and make sure this does not happen.
     
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  4. invermeremike

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    It's a very radical change of direction but red is very emblematic of the Welsh culture and I unerstand the thinking process on this one.

    The problem that I have is the ongoing belief of football clubs that foreign ownership is the only, and ultimate, way to redemption and long term salvation. If you want proof that it is anything but, stop a Pompey fan in the street and see what sort of reply you get because there is very little doubt the prescribed road to financial security is littered with shattered dreams and football club ashes. Look around the leagues and non-leagues to find a team that has gone down the path to nowhere and I will probably show you an offshore investor that showed them the way.

    What happens to a team that travels the same route as Pompey only to find that the financial resources, as promised, are not quite one and the same and hid their collective heads in the sand believing that the commitee that was supposed to oversee offshore investors has disappeared in to the mist of nowhere to be seen. I hope Cariff have more sense than to let the same thing happen to them, but will they?
     
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  5. terrypaine

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    "Three jolly coachmen
    Sat in a Bristol tavern.
    Three jolly coachmen
    Sat in a Bristol tavern.
    And they dec.....
    ...to fall over and drown in their vomit.

    Thanks lads!
     
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  6. cidered abroad

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    Football clubs have always had investors because a football club will never make profit on football alone. But at least for over 100 years the investors were local businessmen - Bob Lord the butcher at Burnley, Harry Dolman's engineering wealth at City, Littlewoods at Everton and Liverpool, one could quote every League club.

    Yes the amounts may have grown from a Man Utd director who in financially troubled times in 1906, paid the train fares for his team to play at AshtonGate and then coughed up for the fish and chip suppers on the way home after a 1-1 draw to the amounts that SL a successful local business in Bristol is putting in to City.

    We all want a good future for our clubs so that those who come after us may bring their kids to watch and become tomorrows supporters. But getting rid of the history and traditions is not on for most of us. Cardiff City were the Bluebirds when my Dad took me to Ninian Park in 1951 and so they should always be. Just as the unmentionables are the Pirates and we are the Robins.

    If it was tried at BCFC by similar owners, I'd tell them to stick their Malaysian flag where the sun don't shine! The club belongs to the fans and the city/town which they represent.
     
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  7. Shinycitylad7

    Shinycitylad7 Looking at the stars mate

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    If Swansea played in red i could see there being a massive problem, but cant see being that big of a deal...
     
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  8. RedorDead

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    And if we have a oversee buyer, but then changes our strip to Green, what would you think of it?

    Not thinking of Cardiff City here, but football is all about tribal and our colours!
     
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  9. pirate49

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    Has any league team dramatically changed its colours since, say, postwar?
    Rovers for a period lost their quarters, but stayed blue.
    The yellow and green stuff at Manchester United goes back to the
    earliest years.
     
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  10. andyyandyy

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    Does anyone remember Coventry from about 10 years ago they dropped their Sky Blue for a season and used the away kit from the previous season as their home kit. Think it was red and black squares.
     
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  12. manxrobin

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    A couple of years ago my loving daughter bought me a Bristol City shirt, which she said was a replica of the shirt worn in the 1909 cup final. It has the Bristol City emblem, but is totally BLUE... Does anyone know whether this is correct. I have to say that I get strange looks from people who say that they didn't know i supported Rovers
     
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  13. cidered abroad

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    Manxrobin, yes blue is correct for the 1909 FA Cup Final because in those days in FA Cup ties both teams had to change colours if there was a colour clash.

    Years ago many teams had white shirts as their change colours so if City played a team in a cup tie who also wore red and also had second strip of white, there was a problem because clubs would have to buy another kit for maybe only one game. Thus I can also remember seeing City play cup ties in the 1950's wearing other teams kits;
    v Rotherham 1953? and Accrington Stanley 1958 in Bristol Rovers blue and white quarters
    v Blackpool in Cardiff City's blue shirts.

    And in the early 60's for an away league match at Grimsby, we played in their away strip of yellow shirts and our white shorts because the referee decided just before kick-off that our kit of red shirts and white shorts was too close to Grimsby's black and white striped shirts, worn that season only with red shorts.

    In the 50's Bristol Rovers change strip was RED and white quarters with black shorts. The nearest time in my life that City came close having blue as change colours was the bluish/mauve shirt in the 90's worn with green shorts - as worn at Anfield when we beat them in the Cup

    Any other examples of City wearing odd colours?
    And why do City not have a second strip with Bedminster colours of gold and amber to recognise the part they played in our history.
     
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  14. EnderMB

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    Last time I checked Wrexham called themselves The Dragons and wore red...
     
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  15. RedorDead

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    Worked in our Cardiff office today, got told that they have turned down the request to play in red, so now the owner is taking away the money offer.
    Never realised that he was going to invest 100 million into the club.
    As I said in previous post I would not like it, but for that sort of money would of got used to it.
    Now if it is true that the owner does pull his money from the club they could be in real trouble.
    As one fan say's they might keep the Blue but be playing in the league of Wales if this happens.
    Also told that the tax man is considering that the next club that goes into trouble they will have them go bust, as they think if clubs keep going into administration they will not be getting all the money owed!
     
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