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  1. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    by who you sell them to after they become surplus/want out/time for a change/etc??

    Examples:

    Torres- Chelsea
    Alonso- Real
    Arbeloa-Real
    Mascherano- Barca
    Reina- Napoli ( loan though)


    Then you look at others:

    Downing- WHU
    Cole- WHU
    Carroll-WHU
    Babel- Ajax I believe
    Konchesky- some championship team
    Paulsen- Evian
    Adam- Stoke
    Pennant- Sociedad/Stoke

    I know I am leaving players out but no coincidence for me. Think it also shows how bad some of our buys have been over the years. Anyone I missed? Obviously if we lose Suarez it will be for a big club but an interesting one is Lucas. If he does not get to the standard he was at or if BR feels he is surplus, which one would he eventually fall under?

    Even a flop like Aquilani, who we knew had talent but it didn't work, went to Juve and Fiorentina. Big teams.
     
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  2. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    take Italians out the equation lol,

    they are talented but either made of glass or cant cope with the prem, only exception i can think of to the rule is Zola.

    Babel i had hopes for but wasn't to be, Ajax are a good team so not exactly gone backwards, the rest are ****e though and cant believe they was considered good enough to wear the shirt.

    Lucas i have always felt is a good squad player to have much like Henderson, obviously we all have dif opinions, but good enough to be relied on when needed, but not the standard for a team that wants to win things and have to play every game as no better alternatives.

    Lucas,Henderson and Gerrard should all be squad players, but they are important first team players, that's an issue that hopefully is being looked at.

    Gerrard it is more he seems ****ed and getting on a bit, having to play every game is starting to show, he needs rotating with someone.
     
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  3. Sucky

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    Ryan Babel has to be the biggest floppy penis ever known, utter ****, a right footed left winger who couldn't pass a a lighter if you asked him, IMHO was worse than downing, **** attitude, a nothing player and a complete waste of 11m ( or 9m can't recall )

    wow Babel was utter tripe, almost a houllier buy he was that ****ing bad.

    no coincidence he was sold back to Ajax, loaned out from them to Turkey then released on a free. (pretty sure that's correct) thank **** those days of buying crap are gone.

    Lucas is a squad player at best now, Rodgers has sorted up front, addressed the back, this Jan will be midfield, hence mvilla in the stands today, better times are coming people. :)
     
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  4. Sucky

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    sorry diddnt answer your original question but that **** Babel gets me every time :D
     
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  5. jenners04

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    tell you was a fan of Babel lol

    he was better than all the other ****e in that list.
     
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  6. suarez14

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    Babbel was ****e like Shelvey
     
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  7. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    I can give you a rough value for Joe Allen if you really want me to.
     
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  8. Di Matteo, Vialli and Ravenelli did alright.
     
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  9. Sharpe*

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    Babel was better than Downing mate come on!

    He was flawed but also scored some excellent goals for us.

    He wasn't quite good enough, whereas Downing was just miles away.
     
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  10. luvgonzo

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    Downing is the worst player to ever play for us imo.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Sean(crocodile)Dundee is right up there with him.
     
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  12. Sharpe*

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    Agreed if you factor in the comparative values of players.

    I was pissed off at the time when we were linked to him and bought him because he was never, ever, good enough for us.

    It pains me the likes of Kenny think he was.
     
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  13. Zeerover

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    We had a good squad in the Rafa days, and people seem to forget we did get to #2 in the PL with him at the helm. Naturally those players went on to big clubs (Alonso, Mascherano, Torres, Arbeloa).

    Kenny (and here ONLY discussing the most recent tenure at LFC) didn't have the best of luck in the transfer market, paying a combined £70m for Carroll, Downing and Henderson - his saving grace is bringing in Suarez, which was a steal at £22. In the world of what could have been just imagine which players we could have gotten instead of that trio for £70m.

    Stevie is getting older no doubt, but he is still an integral part of the team, building a solid foundation for the creative trio in front of him. Lucas is a solid squad player, but not anywhere near the likes of Xabi and Mascherano - which are/were world class players.
     
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  14. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    "We had a good squad in the Rafa days, and people seem to forget we did get to #2 in the PL with him at the helm. Naturally those players went on to big clubs (Alonso, Mascherano, Torres, Arbeloa)."

    wonder if we will be adding Reina to that list as well.
     
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  16. £22? Bargain! <laugh>

    Also Enrique for £6m <ok>
     
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  17. Sucky

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    don't agree about Babel better or less worse than downing, Babel was **** in a decent team, downing was **** in a **** team but at least put some effort in most times. one hard tackle and Babel was invisible.
     
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  18. Whole Lotta Lovren

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    Pretty sure we sold Babel to Hoffenheim didn't we?

    And the OP makes a pretty good point, it isn't something I'd ever invested much thought in before but when you look at it that way you begin to see just how poor some of our signings have been.
     
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  19. I'd have Babel ahead of Downing every day of the week.
     
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  20. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    Thought that was a loan as no one was willing to buy him? Dossena went to Napoli and did alright, voronin went back to germany I think. Sissoko went to juve.
     
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