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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by BCR, Jan 7, 2012.

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  1. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    Due to the pending new story about the Oldham player being racially abused, can we please as decent fans of this great club, try to not buy into the wums and try to not get wound up so easy, create multiple threads, and hopefully make the mods jobs a lot easier.

    No doubt people will come on and tar us all for something one dumbass did, but we need to be the bigger man, just like we need to be the bigger club and show that racism will not be tolerated. The Suarez issue is dead, no matter what we all say, he was found guilty and is serving his ban. The same with this fan, depending on the verdict he will have to do whatever they tell him too. Something probably happened but don't let this great forum turn into a ****hole in the next few weeks. Try to be the bigger man/woman and let it slide. Without attention, wums can't wum <ok>

    Let's focus on the transfers that might be going on, rival watch, what might happen for the CC game with City, can we catch the others above us, things like that! <diva>
     
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  2. ITS_NOT_JUST_A_GAME

    ITS_NOT_JUST_A_GAME Active Member

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    All teams have the odd idiot in it`s fanbase.
    It would be another idiot that would tar you all with the same brush.
     
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  3. Molby...The Pass Master

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    This constant abuse of Liverpool FC and anything or one connected to it is getting tiresome and boring. Suarez got stitched up good and proper, whilst Evra walks away scot free. Last night some kid for Oldham starts crying because of some idiots comment from the crowd. I have been all over the country watching football stood in crowds of 50,000 and stood in crowds of 3,000, there is and always wil be a handful of morons who follow any club. Brainless nobodies, who piggyback on the club they follow to justify there being.This idiots want to be noticed, want there 5 minutes of fame. Easy to get that by shouting out some crap in a crowd.

    The problem is as you rightly stated Bluff unfortunately these same idiots from other clubs because of last nights incident will now tarnish all Liverpool fans with the same brush.
     
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  4. theHotHead

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    Molby while you are right to a certain degree, to hear blatant racist abuse is not normal and not right ! Yeah, the chances of hearing isolated incidents are remote but as an Arsenal fan I can't imagine hearing another Arsenal fan shout racist abuse to a player - the main reason being there are so many black fans that go to Arsenal games that fan shouting racist abuse would end up getting an ass whooping.
     
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  5. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    I think part of the problem is that while, presumably, you are not a racist, you belittle this situation by saying "some kid for Oldham starts crying". That is a disgraceful attitude where there has been an alleged instance of racism and this casual dismissal is exactly what the problem was with Sepp Blatter's "well they should just shake the hand" crap. I really think you should straighten up your act if you want to give a positive image of Liverpool Football Club and condemn this unconditionally. None of this "he should man up"
     
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  6. Molby...The Pass Master

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    Get off your moral high horse. Anyone who makes racial comments, is in my opinion a moron. But if I got upset everytime i've had scouse related comments made to me they'd need to employ extra people at kleenex. Racism goes on in society, be it reference to colour,ethnic origin or regional orientation.Is it right of course not, but i choose not to give these idiots the satisfaction of reacting to there moronic comments. I have stood/sat in grounds and heard far worse from rival fans than what is alleged last night. Will you ever completely irradicate racism? No
     
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  7. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Are you ACTUALLY trying to equate racism with being called a Scouse? **** me, im just not going to bother then. Your attitude is a disgrace to your fellow fans
     
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  8. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    It's starting again! If you want a chat about racism then post on GC.
     
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  9. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Bollox! Racist abuse is wrong and if PROVEN to be true the offender should be banned from anfield for life as it is a mindset that we need to eradicate from society.
    However, when all said and done all that has happened to this 20yr man is that he thinks he heard some anonymous stranger call him some names.

    Yes he should be angry, yes he should report it but answer me this, if the suarez thing had not happened do you think adeyemi would have reacted like a five year who had his favourite toy stolen?
     
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  11. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry. Clearly I was watching a completely different game to you. I saw a young lad who got very upset by something said by supporter/s he could identify. I didnt see a lad get stroppy because someone wouldnt give him an icecream, or like Ronaldo when he gets substituted. Its totally ****ing different. Like every other supporter/journalist whoever in the country, this sort of attitude is absolutely disgusting. If someone is abused they have every right to be upset. All you're doing is defending the actions of these racists, by saying he should calm down. Tis is what Sepp Blatter said, you're no better. If you want other clubs to have a higher opinion of Liverpool, sort this attitude out. There should be no defence for someone like this. You should be distancing yourselves from these idiots, whether they said something racist or not.

    And yes, I think he would have reacted in EXACTLY the same way. He is a very intelligent lad who would have absolutely no reason to have malicious feelings towards Liverpool- this is an oversensitive reaction from you, stop being so defensive. It's not that everyone's against Liverpool, it's that everyone is against racist/abusive behaviour
     
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    General Chat.
     
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    I agree the current environemnt may have added to his reaction, though he would always be offended by such abuse if it occured anyways.

    Regardless of the reaction I am worried about this crap as I am fairly certain the same 'theme' that brought the reaction also probably brought on that abuse too as this is not something I am used to seeing from fans at Anfield.

    What stops a evertonian, manc getting a ticket to a cup match or a chav and doing this wearing a Liverpool jersey? I hope they tell us where this fkers from if he did abuse teh player racially, I just fail to see why a true supporter that goes to matches would purposefully bring this on the club they love?!? Just a thought I am not of any opinion as to what really happened, too little info

    I am not talking racism just what the hell is with someone trying to get our Club in more hot water over that very subject
     
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    I love all this fake self righteousness. So now you are saying he was right to react whether it was racist or not.

    I saw a grown man crying and then set out to injure a liverpool player because he THOUGHT he heard someone say something nasty to him.

    Two questions
    1. Who here is defending abuse whether racist or not?
    2. Has he never heard similar abuse at a football match?
     
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  15. terrifictraore

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    Shows how stupid those sort of people are.
     
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  16. Canary Rob

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    Look you can type away with your "self-righteous" accusations, but that's not what I'm here for. I'm steering clear of the racism, I don't want to get into that, as others have said nothings been proved. I get it that you lot have probably taken a lot of wumming over the Suarez incident. That's nothing to do with me, I'm not involved and is water under the bridge. Anything going too far on is is not fair on the 99% of Kop fans who are decent lads.

    Fact is, here and now, a Norwich player feels he has been abused. Yes, this is a player who even took abuse from his own fans on th chin when we lost 7-1 to Colchester. He knows what it's like. He dealt with that fine. What he heard must have been pretty bad, because he got upset. I don't kno about tears because I was watching an Internet stream and the photos don't show tears. But regardless, I don't care if someone Cries, I'm not going to tell him to man up and to do so is a disgraceful effort to deflect away from the problem- he shouldn't have been abused. Drop the "he shoudld man up" "a grown man shouldn't cry" crap, because it just makes you sound like you think he's part of the problem. He's not, he did nothing. And yes, he went and got yellowed, but honestly that is beside the point
     
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  17. Molby...The Pass Master

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    No your self important clueless twat i wasn't. What i attempt to do was educate you, guess that's beyond your comprehension.
     
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    goonercymraeg Amnesia Forum Moderator

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    This story just doesn't ring true with me.Two Liverpool "fans" in Suarez shirts start racially abusing a black footballer.Don't Liverpool have black players?
     
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  19. terrifictraore

    terrifictraore Well-Known Member

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    That about sums it up.
     
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  20. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Oh I see, so it's not just the knob in the croud who likes to throw insults.

    Do you honestly think I don't know there's abuse thrown around about regions? For ****s sake on the Norwich board we gt plenty of wumming about being from Norfolk and yes, we get over it and dish out a bit back.

    As I said in the post above, that's not what I'm here for. I don't want to get into a chat about racism, nothings been proved, and it's not really my remit. I can see why you'd all be pretty sensitive about it anyway as I'm sur you've received way more than your fair share on the topic over the last few months. It's boring.

    The ONLY reason I posted is because of this attitude that he should "just man up". This is an excuse, trying to deflect away from the issue. No one should be abused and he has every right to be upset. This shouldn't be about Adeyemi crying or whatever, that's just trying to put some of the blame on him. This attitude that he is just looking for attention. Get out. Not a chance. It should be condemned unconditionally and that's that. No further abuse thrown at Adeyemi
     
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