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Can Suarez step up to the plate?

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Magic Ted, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. Magic Ted

    Magic Ted Talulah

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    We are obviously lacking goals, we have no out and out strikers apart from Borini who is relatively unproven. Our top scorer last season was Suarez, even though he still had one of the worst chance conversion rates in the whole league.

    Usually with a striker, once one goes in they hit a run of form, we've never really seen this from Suarez, but we all know he has the quality to be a 20+ goalscorer a season.

    Stats so far in his career.

    Team----Played--Scored--Assist--
    Liverpool--57-------23-----11----
    Ajax------146-----102-----25----
    Uruguay--54-------28------8-----

    Suarezs' chance conversion rate last season was 9.26% (So 1 goal every 10 shots basically), certainly room for improvement.

    Despite a unusual bad performance against Arsenal, with 2 goals already this season (1 in Europa and 1 in the EPL) can we expect to see a more free scoring Suarez, or will the string of bad luck/finishing continue with him?

    I think we need him now more than ever as our main striker to step up to the plate, if we were to have any chance of at least challenging for the top 4 this year, we need our best players to set the standard for the rest of the team.

    He has scored on average every 1.7 games and provides an assist every 5.8 games, which is a very good record, we know he has the talent, we know he can finish (2 goals against Stoke and the hatrick against Norwich for starters) so will we see him firing on all cylinders?
     
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  2. Sir Kenny Dalglish

    Sir Kenny Dalglish Well-Known Member

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    Suarez is a magical footballer and I would love to see him improve his chance conversion rate. However with the amount of chances he himself creates, would it not be better to switch him and Fabio Borini around? In other words put Borini through the centre as the focal point of the attack and put Suarez into the wider role?
     
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  3. Sir_Red

    Sir_Red Well-Known Member

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    Definately, you can see Borini struggling when not in his natural CF position, and Suarez always performs better then coming into the box from the sides, rather than head-on. Wonder why BR is persisting with their current positions
     
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  4. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    For what it's worth BR explains his reasons in that interview. second part near the end of it [video=youtube;9jINu-ZucO8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jINu-ZucO8&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
     
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    You have got to be joking, right?

    Surely you must be aware you are no longer a team capable of fighting anywhere near the top of the league, haven't been for years!
     
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  6. Muppetfinder General

    Muppetfinder General Well-Known Member

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    I think he needs the right partner. He struck a partnership up with Kuyt immediately, which was devastating. It took some time to show signs with Carroll - not Suarez's fault - but was showing. Dunno about Borini. He might be too similar and Suarez could see him as a rival more than a partner.
     
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  7. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    How many years, c.ntchops? <doh>
     
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  8. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    Lol
    Your not going to make him count RHC; his little brain will go pop fizzle....
     
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  9. Deleted #

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    Face it, you aren't the team you used to be or think you are and finishing between 8th-12th is now par for you lot.

    That's not a WUM, just fact and how the rest of the country sees you <ok>
     
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  10. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Face it, we've got something to aspire to but Sunderland will always be nobodies.<ok>
     
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  11. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    The odd thing with Suarez is he seems to do the complicated things with such ease and yet the simple things he so often tries to overcomplicate. The Hearts game at home he rounded the keeper then checked before trying to score then proceeds to actually score later on from a much more difficult angle. Against Arsenal late on he went through and half kind of lobbed it when about 10 yards out when it was easier to hit it low towards the bottom corner (as an out and out striker would do every time).

    It's a tough one because no manager in their right mind would tell him to stop trying the complicated stuff but maybe he just has to learn when to do that and when to keep it simple. Probably not easy to teach a player like him to keep it simple though.

    As MFG says it could well be a question of him just having a regular partner alongside hgim consistently. It could well be that Suarez and Borini are too similar to play next to each other so worth trying to put those two in the positions either side of a front man.

    I definitely think he's good enough to vastly improve that chance conversion rate and what a help it would be if BR can bring that out of him.
     
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  12. Sir Kenny Dalglish

    Sir Kenny Dalglish Well-Known Member

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    Good points.
    Look at last season, and the game against Norwich away as an example. Suarez no more than 12 yards out, one-one-one with the keeper tries to chip him, and the ball balloons over the bar. All he had to do was shoot and it would have nestled in the bottom corner. He tries it again from 45 yards out with the keeper off his line, and this time he executes it to perfection. This is catch 20, as he could easily have looked like a prized plum had the keeper got back to catch it.

    Sometimes its okay to act the goat and show-boat, but there is time and a place for it. He needs to do the simple things first, and then act the goat later.
     
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  13. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Who the fu.k are you? David Cameron? Speaking on behalf of the whole country is it? What a tosser <doh>
     
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  14. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    By the way OP. Suarez plays football, not baseball <ok>
     
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  15. Magic Ted

    Magic Ted Talulah

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    Since when? <confused>
     
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  16. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    Every attacking player needs to step up to the plate. We must not put pressure on one player to score all our goals.

    Suarez, Borini, Downing, Gerrard, Shelvey all need to score more.

    I left Sterling out as he is still young. But if he scores goals this season it will be a big bonus.
     
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  17. jaffaSlot

    jaffaSlot Well-Known Member

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    Lol, a topic that had nothing of interest to other fans and nothing to wum. So fair play to you for milking it dry and actually wumming from nothing.
     
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  18. Milk Milk

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    I thought the beach ball was bad enough... now fans are throwing plates on the field?

    Could be quite dangerous. No wonder Drogba left England... as much time as he spent on the floor.
     
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  19. shogs

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    Liverpool always feel they need to depend on someone, Owen and Gerrard carried, then Alonso and Gerrard, then Torres and Gerrard and now Suarez. I don't understand it why you don't just grasp teamwork? Evertons top scorer had ten/eleven goals last season and we finished 7th above you and we had a poor season.

    so you need everybody to do their bit and not be carried by players.
     
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  20. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    You didn't have a poor season at all you had a poor start. You overachieved again <ok> You could equally look at a team like Arsenal who had one player scoring a majority of their goals and say that if Suarez could slot like Van P then we would be much closer to the top than we were last season.

    As for your argument about teamwork it's a fair point but not really grasping the subject at hand. Given the amount of chances Suarez gets he should score more. If he improved his conversion rate then he'd take the pressure of others and they might respond accordingly. We don't lack for teamwork as is shown by the amount of chances we create.
     
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