THE ANSWER TO ATMOSPHERE AT THE KC? - READ THE STATEMENT BELOW AND JOIN IN THE CAMPAIGN! please log in to view this image In conjunction with the Hull City Official Supporters Club who have adopted safe standing as a policy, we are pleased to announce that we will be hosting the Football Supporters Federation’s safe standing road show at the KC stadium on Saturday the 11th of February with the full support of the club. Taking place from 12 noon to 2.45pm on the day, the invite includes all Hull City Directors and Officials, Council representatives, Police, Hull FC, Hull KR, all local media and football clubs from around the region. Fans are encouraged to arrive early and test the rail seat technology for themselves outside the sports bar. Although legislation does not currently allow for standing at Premier League and Championship games, it is allowed for Rugby League and there is a growing feeling amongst many clubs and fans that people want change - especially now as it can be achieved without compromises in safety. An un-official, informal but professional evaluation of the KC stadium design has indicated that it would be entirely possible to create opt-in ‘singing sections’ fitted with safe standing rail seat technology for both home and away fans in parts of the East and North Stands. Council stadium safety representatives have since conducted an informal study of their own and concluded that although only a minor increase in capacity (+260) would be achievable (due to concourse rather than main bowl capacity). Other benefits such as the elimination of un-safe standing i.e. (standing in-front of regular seats without fall protection) and avoiding ‘anti-social’ standing (in-front of those who wish to sit), are worth considering. When implemented in conjunction with an opt-in ticketing policy this could improve the match day experience by allowing more passionate fans the chance to congregate together and generate proper atmospheres. This is now a safety and match day experience driven campaign and all Hull City fans are encouraged to support it. The economic case for the KC is now harder than we first thought due to the limited increase in capacity available but will still work on a longer term due to the much longer life span of the rail-seats over plastic seats. The Football Supporters Federation road show has the following aims:- - To bring fans, club officials, council, police and media together to sample the ‘rail-seat’ technology for themselves and destroy some myths and enhance understanding for all - Promote constructive dialogue about Safer Standing at Hull City AFC / HULL FC and the SMC - To conduct a survey to determine the real demand for such a choice at the KC - To allow people who prefer to sit see how rail-seats can benefit their enjoyment of the game - To allow people who stand for most of the game to see how it will enhance their safety and enjoyment of the game - To help the club make a positive statement in support of the wider FSF campaign (subject to legislative and policy changes) The best possible outcome would be a broad agreement from all parties that a section of the KC Stadium - both home and away - could be converted to rail seat technology and that it would be a good thing for Hull City AFC, its supporters, Hull FC, the KC stadium and the city of Hull. In addition, a statistically significant sample of supporters being polled would allow us to know the true demand for such a choice being made available in the future. Thanks in advance for your support. Sign the FSF Safe Standing Petition here - http://www.fsf.org.uk/petitions/safestanding.php
Tall people first(5ft 10" or taller) - then middle range people on shoulders and midgets on there shoulders should do the trick.
260 is a bit low and would dramatically reduce the financial viability of the scheme but the stadium is only as good as the exits from the stand. Everyone should be out in 3.5 mins and I guess that early indications are that this would not happen beyond the extra 260 people. I would think thought that by making some adjustment and allowing the pitchside tunnels in the four corners to be used then you should be able to have at least a 1000 extra over the the 25,500 we have already. Will be interesting to see how the Scottish clubs and Villa get on.
I'll be in for this. I'm massively in favour. I know Hillsborough is emotive but I think given everything that's been achieved in the last 20 years with policing football matches and the attitudes of fans themselves that having standing in a safe environment should be a choice for fans on matchdays. I'd ensure that all standing areas are all-ticket so that over-allocating can never happen but otherwise, it should be perfectly possible. I'll like the club to introduce it on the North Stand or the North end of the East Stand. I stand anyway as I'm on the back row but I'd like to see everyone afforded the same choice. The other plus side is it enables people to stand with their friends and get an atmosphere going.
Standing should never have been stopped. Only those government muppets ended the fun. If the germans can do it then surely we can ? Plus the more people who stand allows bigger attendances.
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Nah. Had we not changed the laws, we wouldn't have had the flood of smart new stadia and everything that goes with it. We'd still be in the dark ages, like Italy.
Although I am in favour of safe standing I don't expect much improvement in atmosphere unless the acoustics are considered - think Peterborough. At the KC the noise drifts away.
The fact is that seating actually impedes exit and so a standing crowd leaves quicker. I don't actually care if I sit or stand to watch the game, but I want to sit at half time and eat my pie!
Nothing to mdo with it. The highest ever decibel level recorded at a football match was at a Turkish stadium holding about 30,000 people which has no roof. I've posted this before, it is a clip from anjother stadium with no roof that holds less than 23,000. It is also an all-seater stadium. The difference is everyone joins in whereas the majority at the KC sit there as though at the theatre watching a play. Acoustics aren't the problem, it is the lack of numbers of people making any noise. [video=youtube;f5hPgSEwCiQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5hPgSEwCiQ[/video] i
By the way I got a letter of reply from David Davis MP on 16th Jan. Bit of waffle first, then confirming what we know of the action by the Minister of Sport ie., that on 21st March 2011 "Hugh Robertson opened an investigation into whether standing areas would be able to be built into existing stadiums, how they would be policed, and whether there was sufficient demand for their introduction. His review is still ongoing and further information should be forthcoming in the future". So it's all about practicability and demand, so get demanding.
