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Cameroon accused of match fixing, but it really a shock

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  1. weararedbonnet

    weararedbonnet Well-Known Member

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    Cameroon have been accused of match fixing in the World cup, but is it really such a shock?

    This isn't the first case, and whilst it is still to be proved, the does seem to be some evidence.Adding to the football implications, similar fixings have gone on in cricket, with several major players either being found out or admitting to fixing.

    I am sure every one on not 606 would love to play for their favourite club, let alone get an international cap, but it seems nothing counts today except for hard cash.

    And its not just football. Add to that council officials who wound't know a decent days work if it bit them on the buttocks, corrupt lawyers, dishonest MP's, and lying policemen . The NHS is riddled with incompetence, with millions being wasted on compensation cases rather than patient care. Finally, retired people paying top dollar for care in their old age are not just ignored, but often left without food or water.

    Seems we are becoming a totally careless society.
     
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    That aside, everything else ok?
     
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    Cameroon players earn very little, so why not cheat
     
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    What is Gerrard and Suarez excuse then?
     
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    Well pointed out London's only EC winners
     
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    Thats has scuppered my theory then <laugh>

    Maybe greed for that pair
     
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    So surprise really. The whole of the Africa continent is corrupt.
     
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    Yes, Moyes out, but aside from football we are becoming a nation of cheats.

    We have a legal system where barristers & solicitors win cases on who can be the best actor instead of relying on the truth. We have a corrupt police force who "massage" crime figures,etc etc. Hospitals are run by imbeciles instead of a feared matron and the NHS is riddled with bone idle staff. And I havn't included MP's and the Euro Zone rip offs

    No such thing as being professional any more, its how much pay can I get from minimal input
     
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    weararedbonnet

    There's a big difference between cheats / not being professional / pay for little work. You also state "becoming" - since when was the legal system here (and let's face it, it's a damn site better in the UK than most places in the world) have barristers & solicitors been any different. They all use the laws available to try to obtain the best outcome for their client! Doesn't make it right - but they are being very professional.

    Your "not included MPs" etc comment - going back to when would you say they were good???? Previously, "advisors" to the king would manipulate all they could to get their way, or ways of their associates (for £'s).

    Bone idle staff in the NHS - seriously? Clearly there are some (like in any institution of that size), but if you genuinely believe that it is "riddled" with bone idle staff you are very much mistaken.

    In your opening gambit, you say we are a careless society - just whose fault is that? Was it better when kings of old just ran roughshod over one and all, went to places and declared it theirs (cracking British Empire).

    I'm not sure exactly what point you are trying to make, but if it's as bad as you think, we might as well go stick our heads in the oven.....provided that they are gas....and that someone else is paying the bill for us!
     
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    So twisting the law to suit the law breaking client is OK? So Britain has a wonderful legal system, provided of course, you have the money to pay for it.
    NHS. Patients kept waiting for over 4 hrs in A&E, a child not diagnosed with meningitis who sadly died, elderly not cared for properly. hospital staff posting pics wearing a deceased patients underwear, deceased childrens body parts "lost ". Millions paid out in compensation, when it should be used for patients. I could go on and on, but hardly professional is it?

    I stand by the careless society. We only have to look at social services, Baby P being a sad example of not caring , and many other cases since where the blame is clearly the fault of social services. Yet the head of department who handled baby P's case claims over 500,000 in compensation for wrongful dismissal. All of which was claimed on her behalf by our wonderful legal system.

    So I stand by my claim, we are in a careless society.
     
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    Over 4 hours in A&E means lots of people using it, often people who dont need it.
    Maybe if we stopped every man and his dog entering this country the better it would be.

    If you want me to care more, pay me for it, otherwise sod off <laugh>
     
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    If you want to start chucking them out, start in Buckingham palace, there's a few Germans holed up in there sponging millions from the tax payer :D
     
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    good idea <ok>
     
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    Your scattergun approach isn't really right, is it? One of your main statements was that "we are becoming....", you site the legal system as an example. Since when was it right.....your "are becoming" statement implies that it used to be ok. Since there has been law/rules, there has always been manipulation of the system. Nothing has changed - things are as they always were. How does our legal system stack up against those around the world - not too bad I would guess....unless you are saying that you would rather face justice in the US, Iran, Turkey, Italy, Nigeria etc. etc. etc.?

    One of your primary statements regarding the NHS was that it was "riddled with bone idle staff". Again, completely wrong. Without a doubt (and as in any organisation employing 1.5m+ staff, it will always have some that are not working to (or near) capacity, but your "riddled" comment is completely wrong. If you had any real knowledge or proper interaction with the NHS, you would know how far off the mark you are. The NHS has been in existence for less than 70 years and was only put in place to ensure that those that could not afford healthcare, could actually get it. With the incredible developments of drugs, treatments and operations that prolong life - life expectancy has risen by over 10 years in that period. Infant death reduced from 4% to 1/2%.....indeed, I could go on (and I have) - doesn't sound too bad to me. The cost of R&D of these drugs is significant and has a material impact on the costs the NHS face (1 aggressive cancer treatment could easily cost the NHS in excess of £250k). Of course, we could all pay another 10p in the £ in tax if everyone else is up for it.

    For every 1 Baby P, there are hundreds of cases where individuals are doing the right thing. That was a terrible and terrible and avoidable situation and as a parent of young children - very distressing. Mistakes happen and incompetence is seen in all walks of life - unfortunately, in this instance the consequences were appalling.

    Your "careless society" statement appears to be aimed at "the system" (legal, health, government etc.) - but the issue is actually us, those of us who continue to expect something for nothing (to live a TOWIE, WAG or X-factor winner life). The system just tries to cope with that.

    Am I saying that things are great here - of course not. Am I saying that things could be a whole lot worse - then absolutely.
     
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