Cabaye...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...al-Palace-failing-shine-Paris-St-Germain.html

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he's probably like to work under Viera.....

 

Even Vieira!

 

For £10m and at 29 I'd have him back in a flash like....head and shoulders above anyone we have in our squad currently. The bloke oozes class and makes things look so simple.

I'm pretty sure he'd prefer the toon over palace like, especially if we have Vieira in charge ooooh la la

 

Looks like this might happen... rumour has it he's turned down a move to Villa and he's wanting a move to London.

It'll be a cracking deal for Palace, although I reckon he's way above them, I'd say he's good enough for the current Spurs side.

 

Never fear - we'll get Grenier!

 

The guy went on strike while with us - So Palace can have him.

 

If Pards pulls that off it would be ridiculous business. I just can't see it. He did have a good relationship with him though and Pards got him playing out of his skin.

 

That never happened. He was already top drawer when he was playing for Lille. Putting himself in the shop window for a bigger/better club/more money probably gave the bloke more motivation than Alan Pardew ever did.

 

A common mistake - Graham Carr is credited with discovering Cabaye. Not true. Cabaye was already a French international and top drawer for Lille. We simply beat Liverpool and Spurs to his signature.

 

Suspect that Arsenal or Spurs will hijack this deal although he may now be looking for somewhere he will be playing constantly which would probably rule out former.

 

A popular belief with those who refuse to give Pardew any credit. I prefer to give credit where its due, and its certainly due with Cabaye. The players seemed to really like Pardew, except for Fatty Ben Afro. No doubt Cabaye was already a top player, but then many top players from France and other nations have come here and failed badly. He and Pardew had an excellent reltionship, Cabaye spoke very well of him after he left

"I like him because he gave me confidence to play, and to play as I did for two-and-a-half years,"
"As manager he is really close to the players and talks a lot with them. He puts them in a good position to play well and we give him back our trust."
"I didn't have the opportunity to speak with him or even to call him, but I know that if he texted me, called me or wanted to meet me in Paris, I would do it with pleasure,"
"I just want to give him back whatever he gave me. He's a good manager and is going to stay that way in my mind."

If the player himself is willing to credit Pardew, then I think we have to accept it is so. Giving confidence to players mean you are using them correctly and aiding their career. Cabaye was a better player when he left Newcastle that is for sure. Just like if you headbutt opposing players, push linesman, insult other managers then you can't pretend that didn't happen either. Same goes for his time here, there were stellar periods of playing really nice football and doing well, but also horrendous runs of form which couldn't be explained away simply by him constantly having the rug pulled from beneath him (which I don't think anyone would deny).

You could put a lot of very good managers or coaches in charge of Newcastle over the last 5 years. Most would have walked, I reckon about 1 in 10 would have done well. Just a poisonous place to ply your trade under this regime.

 

I don't doubt he had a great relationship with him pal, but 'playing out of his skin' to me means he was giving everything to the club. He was doing the same for Lille, he just plays like that. Pardew acquired a top player and played him as a focal point in your team, he deserves credit for that, he knew where to play him.

Pardew deserves credit for Cabaye's talent about as much as Rodgers does for Suarez.

 

Most of the players liked Pardew from what you read. Only the likes of Ben Arfa and Marveaux disliked him.

 

He probably doesn't have many friends in football.

I remember him being on par with Benzema, emerging out of Lyon's youth team all those years ago into the first team, the world stood up... at the time if I had to make a call on who'd be the one with the Champions League winners medal, I'd have bet my last quid it would have been Ben Arfa.

 

Ben Arfa had the ability, but the attitude was sadly lacking. If he had applied his energies to working hard in training and on the pitch he would be playing at a top side by now.

 

He believed his own hype, everything in training will have been too easy for him, he must have thought he could put in less effort as he was above the other players, the talent gulf he'd have been showing at youth level will have made him think like that.

You never know what's going on in another man's head, but he must have some issues to waste all of that talent.

 

He did improve him though. Got him to do the other side of the game. When he came and having watched him for Lille, great technical player but a bit shy of the other stuff. He became a more rounded player and Pardew supported him/gave him tough love in equal measure. It was a good period for the club of course, that Cabaye/Tiote axis was competitive against even the best sides.

Good managers can't improve top players much talent wise, you have it or you don't. Mourinho hasn't given Hazard his talent, but he has improved him. They can only help them and tweak. Pardew did that with Cabaye. When Cabaye was under the pump from fans, Pardew found a way of reintegrating him to our benefit. He struck a happy balance between letting him know what was wrong, but not shutting the door. The rest comes from the player as he has to be man enough to accept his punishment. HBA is a prime example of someone who couldn't put the ego to one side. Cabaye at times in his first season looked like he'd had enough of the kicks. I think Pardew helped that mental toughening process. When PSG got him, I think they got the complete midfielder. He was even looking deadly in front of goal - I think he went from a 1 in 6 to a 1in 3 or 4 type midfielder under Pardew.

 

It's probably true of a lot of kids that are light years ahead of others. They develop the arrogance. Some, like Ronaldo are arrogant footballers, but off the pitch are decent blokes that are actually humble. People like Ben Arfa - Arrogant on and off the pitch.