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Bruce Lee

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Neville Bartos, Dec 15, 2010.

  1. just before we start. he coud NOT beat mike tyson in a fight. there's no arguement here what so ever.

    but has anyone actually seen him fight for real??. every video on youtube is from one of his ridiculous movies?

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  2. Kim Jong Il

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    Mike tyson would struggle to land a punch on bruce lee, assuming he is as good s he made him self look in his films. 1 punch would ruin him though <ok>
     
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  3. why would he struggle to land a punch? here's tyson when he's 15. dead slow eh <doh>

    [video=youtube;VRs5budNvxg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRs5budNvxg[/video]
     
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  4. Kim Jong Il

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    bruce lee has all the crazy kung fu blocks and i did say if he was as good as he made him self look in the films, in real life theres probably no contest.
     
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  5. so back to the original question. has anyone ever seen him fight for real?
     
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  6. Kim Jong Il

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  7. so why does everyone bang on about how good a fighter he was? by that logic Big Sly Stallone is the best boxer ever.
     
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    I seem to remember this argument a few years ago Nev, Tyson could not have lived with Bruce Lee simply because he would not have got close enough to hit him. I never saw him fight "Live" but he was by all accounts an incredible martial arts expert,

    (Martial arts, also known as fighting systems, are bodies of codified practices or traditions of unarmed and armed combat, usually without the use of guns and other modern weapons. People study martial arts for various reasons including fitness, getting rid of aggressions, mental/character development, and self-defense.

    Martial arts, also known as fighting systems, are bodies of codified practices or traditions of unarmed and armed combat, usually without the use of guns and other modern weapons. People study martial arts for various reasons including fitness, getting rid of aggressions, mental/character development, and self-defense. )


    Boxing is NOT a martial art.
     
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  9. aye but tyson could knock out an 18 stone heavyweight with one punch and thats with gloves on. bruce lee is about what 12 stone? and has never trained to take that kind of punch. all it would take would be for tyson to land a simple left hook then that would have lee wobbled then it would be decapitation time with the right uppercut.
     
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    Boxing doesn't have to be a martial art for tyson to be able to win, its purely hypothetical but for the sake of argument lets say its a charity match in which both fighters must stick to the rules for their relevant discipline.
     
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    As I said, that would be reliant upon Tyson hitting Lee before Lee hit him, using the techniques Lee knew, he could likewise put Tyson down with one punch or one kick, in Martial Arts size is not an advantage at all. There are plenty of examples in MMA of superior fighters beating much larger opponents. Ali was my hero and he was far and away better than Tyson but even Ali would have had trouble landing "any" punch on Lee, let a lone a knockout blow.
     
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  12. its all about size and power. mani pacquio is one of the best fighters ever but wouldnt last 30 seconds with tyson.
     
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  13. you think lee can generate more power than tyson with a punch? impossible
     
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  14. EDGE

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    Tyson was just a street fighter that got lucky, he's nothing special, I think that the stats prove this <ok>

    Lee would take him out no bother
     
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  15. what stats?
    the fact he won the heavyweight championship at the age of 20?
    the fact he was the youngest ever unfied heaveyweight champion?
    the fact he was the shortest ever heavy weight champion?
    the fact that the first heavyweight boxer to hold the WBA, WBC and IBF titles simultaneously
    the fact that he won 50 fights, 44 of them knock outs?

    if he didny get the jail he would of been the best ever, he is still the best ever in some peoples eyes
     
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  16. but has anyone ever seen bruce lee fight for real!!!!!!!!!!!????????
     
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  17. EDGE

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    The stats don't lie Nev, Lee would've taken Tyson down, Tyson wouldn't have got near him:emoticon-0170-ninja:emoticon-0169-dance:emoticon-0165-muscl
     
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  18. give me some bruce lee stats then
     
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    Bruce Lees fight history from <doh> wikipedia <doh>

    Lee was involved in competitive fights, some of which were arranged while others were not. Dan Inosanto stated, "There's no doubt in my mind that if Bruce Lee had gone into pro boxing, he could easily have ranked in the top three in the lightweight division or junior-welterweight division".[38]

    Lee defeated three-time champion British boxer Gary Elms by way of knockout in the third round in the 1958 Hong Kong Inter-School amateur Boxing Championships by using Wing Chun traps and high/low-level straight punches.[39]

    The following year, Lee became a member of the "Tigers of Junction Street," and was involved in numerous gang-related street fights. "In one of his last encounters, while removing his jacket the fellow he was squaring off against sucker punched him and blackened his eye. Bruce flew into a rage and went after him, knocking him out, breaking his opponent's arm. The police were called as a result".[40] The incident took place on a Hong Kong rooftop at 10 pm on Wednesday, 29 April 1959.[41]

    In 1962, Lee knocked out Uechi, a Japanese black belt Karateka, in 11 seconds in a 1962 Full-Contact match in Seattle. It was refereed by Jesse Glover. The incident took place in Seattle at a YMCA handball court. Taki Kamura says the battle lasted 10 seconds in contrary to Harts statement.[42] Ed Hart states "The karate man arrived in his gi (uniform), complete with black belt, while Bruce showed up in his street clothes and simply took off his shoes. The fight lasted exactly 11 seconds &#8211; I know because I was the time keeper &#8211; and Bruce had hit the guy something like 15 times and kicked him once. I thought he'd killed him".[43] The fight ended by Bruce knocking Uechi the length of the gymnasium.[44]

    In Oakland, California in 1964 at Chinatown, Lee had a controversial private match with Wong Jack Man, a direct student of Ma Kin Fung known for his mastery of Xingyiquan, Northern Shaolin, and Tai chi chuan. According to Lee, the Chinese community issued an ultimatum to him to stop teaching non-Chinese; when he refused to comply he was challenged to a combat match with Wong, the arrangement being that if Lee lost he would have to shut down his school while if he won then Lee would be free to teach Caucasians or anyone else.[40] Wong denies this, stating that he requested to fight Lee after Lee issued an open challenge during one of Lee's demonstrations at a Chinatown theatre, and that Wong himself did not discriminate against Caucasians or other non-Chinese.[45] "That paper had all the names of the sifu from Chinatown, but they don't scare me". &#8212; Bruce Lee[46]

    Individuals known to have witnessed the match included Cadwell, James Lee (Bruce Lee's associate, no relation) and William Chen, a teacher of Tai chi chuan. Wong and witness William Chen stated that the fight lasted an unusually long 20&#8211;25 minutes.[45] According to Bruce Lee, Linda Lee Cadwell, and James Yimm Lee, the fight lasted 3 minutes with a decisive victory for Bruce. "The fight ensued, it was a no holds barred fight, it took three minutes. Bruce got this guy down to the ground and said 'do you give up?' and the man said he gave up". &#8212; Linda Lee Cadwell[40]

    Wong Jack Man published his own account of the battle in the Chinese Pacific Weekly, a Chinese-language newspaper in San Francisco, which contained another challenge to Lee for a public rematch.[45] Lee had no reciprocation to Wong's article nor were there any further public announcements by either, but Lee had continued to teach Caucasians.

    Lee's eventual celebrity put him in the path of a number of men who sought to make a name for themselves by causing a confrontation with Lee. A challenger had invaded Lee's private home in Hong Kong by trespassing into the backyard to incite Lee in combat. Lee finished the challenger violently with a kick, infuriated over the home invasion. Describing the incident, Herb Jackson states,

    One time one fellow got over that wall, got into his yard and challenged him and he says 'how good are you?' And Bruce was poppin mad. He [Bruce] says 'he gets the idea, this guy, to come and invade my home, my own private home, invade it and challenge me.' He said he got so mad that he gave the hardest kick he ever gave anyone in his life.[47]
    Bob Wall, USPK karate champion and Lee's co-star in Enter the Dragon, recalled one encounter that transpired after a film extra kept taunting Lee. The extra yelled that Lee was "a movie star, not a martial artist," that he "wasn't much of a fighter". Lee answered his taunts by asking him to jump down from the wall he was sitting on. Wall described Lee's opponent as "a gang-banger type of guy from Hong Kong," a "damned good martial artist," and observed that he was fast, strong, and bigger than Bruce.[48]

    This kid was good. He was strong and fast, and he was really trying to punch Bruce's brains in. But Bruce just methodically took him apart.[49] Bruce kept moving so well, this kid couldn't touch him...then all of a sudden, Bruce got him and rammed his ass with the wall and swept him up, proceeding to drop him and plant his knee into his opponent's chest, locked his arm out straight, and nailed him in the face repeatedly". &#8212; Bob Wall[50]
     
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  20. so none on film then? how convenient
     
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