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Bruce gets his excuses in early!!!!!

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Cest Advocaat, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    So Mr Negative gets his excuses for not signing Bendtner in very early. Apparently after 2 goals in 7 games for us and 5 in as many for Denmark, the chances of us signing him are now slim? Apparently his form has alerted other clubs that he is actually a good player.

    No ****ing **** Sherlock.

    Now either one of 3 things has happened. Either Bruce knows that Short has shut the wallet on him now and he doesnt have any of the Bent, Henderson or Gyan loan money to spend and wages have become an issue already; or Bendtner has had a good look at Bruce's Sunderland (as a man now not the boy Bruce managed once before) and thought **** playing for him for a game of soldiers long term and Bruce knows that too; or Bendtner has had other offers already via his agent as with Bent and Gyan.

    Whatever the reason, I'm afraid its a case of deja vu for us as fans as we look set to lose our 4th striker in 12 months under this useless manager. The 'Bruce in' boys can offer whatever excuse they want but I dont see ANY other similar sizes and budgeted football club in the whole of Europe that hemorrhages strikers like we do. That can't all be down to just wages and transfer budgets. I'm not buying that line for one minute at all.

    Its all getting a bit embarrassing to be honest and it looks like Bruce has decided to get his excuses in, for us not signing the lad, now in November. Why we cant make the lad an offer in January is beyond me, as I am sure Arsenal would like £10m or £12m to invest in someone else as well. If we wait until the Summer its 99% certain we wont sign him, as a host of clubs will come calling at that time. If we make an offer of regular football and star billing for him in January, might he not be better tempted to sign a 3 or 4 year deal? i liked the lad before we got him on loan and would be more than happy to get him on a permanent deal. With Campbell set to return in the next 4 or 5 weeks and Connor back for January as well, our strikeforce could look a lot healthier but we still need that experienced star billed striker imo and NB fits that bill perfectly.


    A win today is all that can be acceptable for me. A draw is just a defeat dressed up a bit. A target to get 9 points from the next 4 games is also a minimum requirement. Failure to do either of the above should hopefully really turn the crowd against him and start to gather momentum for his removal. If he does achieve it however, then he deserves a chance to continue but without any slackening of the demands. If we are to improve as a club then the results have to improve continually not every 10 games or so. Bruce wants 15 or 17 points from the next 10 games and I said yesterday that my request was for 19/20 points form the next 12. This is an absolute minimum too if we are to pull away from the relegation places and into mid table.

    However, I have absolutely no faith Bruce is capable of delivering this and will be savagely amused to see what lame, pathetic excuses he comes up with in 10 or 12 games time for not doing so.

    Wrong kind of snow is my early favourite!!!!
     
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  2. Cheik the room

    Cheik the room Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Nicklas Bendtner was ever anticipated by anybody to be more than a loan to plug the gaps until the right man could be found. All of us know he clearly sees himself at a higher level.
     
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  3. Commachio

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    Another well written piece Cest..

    I'll echo them sentiments..
     
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  4. CyprusMackem

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    We could never sign Bendtner as his wages are way beyond our budget.
    Same as Bent earns these days. Same as Gyan earns these days.
    I really don't get how these things can be pinned on Bruce. Does he decide our wage structure? Don't think so. Does he decide when a offer is to good to refuse? Don't think so.
     
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  5. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    In that case then, you have to ask the question of the manager why keep chasing players we can never keep hold of and continually disrupting the squad and team building? Why bother with Bendtner if his wages are too much? I'll tell you because Bruce **** his pants when Gyan left and panicked with Bendtner's signature on loan. He knew he was in the **** having not planned for the obvious departure of Gyan and is now busy quickly dampening our expectations, as he knows he ****ed up again and slipping ti to us gently that there is no way he will be a permanent buy.

    This is precisely the reason we are so bloody crap this year. We should be looking to bring lads like Shane Long and Danny Graham (as I said time and time again back in the summer) as these lads are our wage bracket and stamp. they both would have come and both would have offered something long term not 6 months or 12 months at a time.

    Its just another example of the hapless, PC Manager style of club manager Bruce is. He bought Connor and Ji for £10.5m knowing they would be long term not now, when he knew full well it was now we needed strikers. Bruce doesnt have 12 months he has 12 weeks.

    Oh god I just wish we had a manager that was any use. Bruce is starting to make Sbragia look a decent appointment these days.

    I almost could happily accept a defeat today if it hastened the departure of this thick useless, deceitful lying horse manure manager
     
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  6. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    Like most fans i always want the lads to win, problem is the more we win the healthier Bruce's position is, a catch 22 situation. i am a Bruce out man, but it breaks my heart to see us loose, thefore i just hope Mr Short does see the writing on the wall and acts, if the next four games are abysmal for us.
     
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  7. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Bruce will never build anything long term at SAFC. He is effectively rebuilding the team and squad every 6 to 7 months since he came here 2.5 years ago.

    Going into his 6th transfer window, we are still 6 or 7 players short of even having a balanced squad never mind team and I have no confidence he has a ****ing clue who he will buy, sell or look for. Clueless ****er.

    The man is a disaster for SAFC. A complete disaster.
     
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  8. CyprusMackem

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    "In that case then, you have to ask the question of the manager why keep chasing players we can never keep hold of and continually disrupting the squad and team building?"

    Double-edged sword that one you must admit.
    Any manager should strive to bring in the best he can surly, although it could lead to said players becoming highly sort after by the big boys. Once that happens we are ****ed over yet again.
    We as a club pay average Premiership wages. It's little wonder we have on the whole average Premiership players.
    Once a Liverpool, Man City etc come sniffing for one of our few gems, we just can't compete. Sadly.
     
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  9. General Klytus

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    Once upon a time Bruce had a 'reputation' for buying players on the cheap and then selling them for a big profit (Wigan). These days Bruce has evolved into taking players on loan and then giving them back for nowt. That's progress!

    Although to be fair, it was Paul Jewell who brought in most of the talent that Wigan built up in those days. Bruce could of brought any of them with him, yet he choose to bring Bramble and Cattermole.

    I remember Paul Scharner thought very highly of Bruce too... I'm sure player discontent and a high staff turnover wherever Bruce resides is a pure coincidence.

    Bruce 'amazed' at fallout claims... Sound familiar?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ruce-amazed-hear-Scharner-say-fallen-out.html
     
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  10. CyprusMackem

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    No but if a loan is your best option I'd take it.
    Would you prefer Bendtner was leading our attack this afternoon or warming the Arsenal bench?
    It seems a no brainer to me.
     
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  11. Commachio

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    Having seen the team today,what's gonna be his excuse?

    I hate these international breaks...blah blah blah.
     
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  12. yogi2409

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    It was always going to be tough to keep Bendy, especially if he bagged a few goals along the way. Throw in wages and his notorious ambition and it doesnt come as a surprise if he was away end of the season.

    However from what I can recall Gyan told Bruce he was on board with the club and commited, Nic was signed back end of the window, and then a few days later Gyan left. Then Quinny gave a statement explaining how quickly the deal went through. I was always under the impression that Bendtner was signed as a partner for Gyan and his departure was out of the blue leaving us no time to search for another fron man in time?

    Either way as previosuly mentioned id prefer a hard working, confident, Bendtner up front for us today rather than a big money panic transfer for a middle of the road player to fill the void left by Judas mark II.
     
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  13. General Klytus

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    So its back to 4-5-1... Either Richardson or Sess playing off the striker with Elmo hitting the first man when he crosses. Noble must of upset Bruce by scoring those goals during midweek.
     
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  14. General Klytus

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    8-12 million for Bendtner or 8-12 million for Wickham? Seems like a no-brainer to me.
     
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  15. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Won't say i'm shocked mate, just friggin baffled..

    Here's hoping eh..

    Come on..
     
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  16. General Klytus

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    Time to drop the Bruce out chants and cheer on the lads! The first and possibly final critical turning point in Bruces tenure as the manager of SAFC is now upon us!
     
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  17. Commachio

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    Yep

    Come on..
     
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  18. CyprusMackem

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    We can't afford Bendy's wages. Arsenal are subbing us at the moment.
    So not so much as a no brainer. More a non starter.
     
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  19. General Klytus

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    Buy Bendtner with the money that was spent on Wickham, pay his wages with what is saved in wages by loaning out Gyan and using his 6 million loan fee. It doesn't appear to be rocket science to me... Not forgetting Ferdinand was sold which saves us 60 k per week and brought in 4.5 million.

    I'm sorry but your position holds no water...
     
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  20. CyprusMackem

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    Unfortunately it does.
    We have a wage structure. Bendy would be well over it.
    It's not the initial fee that's the problem and if we were going to break the wage cap for anyone it would have been Bent.
    Seems Mr Short is keeping within his limits. Not a completely bad idea as it keeps us stable. The downside is bye bye bendy.
     
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