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  1. stopmeandslapme

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    Going back to your original "idea": the French could empty the immigrant camps onto boats and bring them this side of The Channel.
     
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    That Cummings is truly a bitter hypocrite <ok>
     
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    **** all if he's taken them.

    Boris could just point out Cummings self declared eyesight issues makes him a poor witness. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  6. Stanley J Krammerhead III

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    'My' Captain Hindsight? I left the Labour Party last month (after having only re-joined it in 2019 after Corbyn went) specifically because Starmer started sucking up to the S*n and its mongoloid readership. No fan of Starmer, but it's preposterous whataboutery to compare what Starmer has done to Bunga-Bunga Johnson. You can tell the decrepit, twisted, knarled hand of Dacre is back pulling the levers at The Hate. :emoticon-0138-think
     
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    When his incompetence is a contributing factor... yes ... unequivocally ... <ok>
     
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  8. Diego

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    So you prefer someone to get pissed whilst still working than someone who did it after hours?
     
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  9. Stanley J Krammerhead III

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    Quick Daily Mail - something about Meghan Markle, the BBC and Jewish space lasers.....

    Dominic Cummings: Boris Johnson lied to parliament about lockdown party
    Prime minister ignored lockdown warnings, says his former aide

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    Dominic Cummings has accused Boris Johnson of lying to parliament about a Downing Street garden party during the first lockdown after claiming that he directly warned the prime minister it should not go ahead.

    Cummings, formerly the prime minister’s most senior adviser and now one of his most vociferous critics, said that he discussed the drinks party with Johnson and told him: “You’ve got to get a grip of this madhouse.”

    He said that Johnson “waved it aside”, adding that he would be prepared to “swear under oath” about the veracity of his account.


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    Cummings also said that he and another senior official told Martin Reynolds, Johnson’s principal private secretary, who had sent an email inviting staff to the party on May 20, 2020, that the event was in breach of the rules.

    He claimed that Reynolds said he would check with the prime minister. Cummings added that he believed a second senior official spoke to the prime minister about the party. “The events of May 20 alone, never mind the string of other events, mean the PM lied to parliament about parties,” he said.

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    Johnson told the Commons last week that he believed the “socially distanced drinks” were a work event and that he had gone into the garden to thank his staff. He said: “When I went into that garden just after 6pm on May 20, 2020, to thank groups of staff, before going back into my office 25 minutes later to continue working, I believed implicitly that this was a work event. But Mr Speaker, with hindsight, I should have sent everyone back inside.”

    Sources who attended said that a table was filled with alcohol and that Johnson’s partner, Carrie Symonds, was drinking gin. The prime minister’s official spokesman denied that he had seen the email sent by Reynolds inviting staff to the event.

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    The garden party is one of a number of Downing Street events being investigated by Sue Gray, a senior civil servant. She is expected to report back at the end of this week at the earliest.



    The prime minister’s spokesman issued a blanket denial yesterday that Johnson knew the event breached the rules. “I’ve said we made clear over the weekend that it’s untrue to say that the prime minister was told or warned ahead of that,” the spokesman said.

    In other developments:
    ● Two ministers criticised Downing Street as discontent escalated.
    ● Sir John Curtice, a polling expert, said that Johnson was unlikely to recover fully from the scandal.
    ● A poll of Conservative Party members by Opinium for Channel 4 News found that 25 per cent believed Johnson should quit, compared with 63 per cent who thought he should stay.
    ● A former government aide claimed that Downing Street staff would start drinking at lunchtime and wake up in the same clothes after sleeping on sofas.

    Writing on his blog, Cummings said that he had raised the garden party during talks with the prime minister about the future of Sir Mark Sedwill, then cabinet secretary, and Reynolds. “Amid discussion over the future of the cabinet secretary and PPS himself, which had been going on for days, I said to the PM something like: ‘Martin’s invited the building to a drinks party, this is what I’m talking about, you’ve got to grip this madhouse.’ The PM waved it aside.” Cummings, who left Downing Street in November 2020, said more revelations were likely. “There are many other photos of parties after I left yet to appear,” he said. “I’ll say more when SG’s [Sue Gray’s] report is published.”

    Sonia Khan, a former No 10 official, said there was a long-standing drinking culture in Downing Street. She told the BBC that “drinks could start at lunchtime . . . the idea of mini fridges or having drinks underneath your table wasn’t uncommon”. She added that she had seen instances of “people waking up in the same clothes the next day”.
     
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    I accept your experienced comparison of being pissed and one bottle of beer. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    How many did you expect him to quaff in a 4 second clip?

    Ahh, they did it but we only got caught having a sip, ****ing pathetic <laugh>
     
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    Crazed righties seem to love it when Nige gets stuck in to some serious pintage.
     
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    Mate, you do realise, as you flail around here in whataboutery windmilling, that Boris said he went back into work after at least one of the Downing Street 'work parties', so that utter bullshittery about Boris knocking off work and finishing with a few drinks in the garden with Carrie is, er, utter bullshittery. But anyway, just read Dominic - he's a liar, bang-to-rights. And I'm personally lovin' it. :emoticon-0137-clapp
     
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  14. Diego

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    Did Boris get drunk at that one or was it just those that had knocked off for the day?

    If the best Starmer can do is whinge about parties he participated in himself then the man is worse than Corbyn (thank ****) <laugh>

    Yeah, Big Dom will save the day, everybody trusts that **** when it suits them :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    Mate, you're flailing even more now. Have you been to a Downing Street 'work event' before you came on here? To recap, you said would I prefer if someone was pissed at work (Starmer on one bottle of beer - you can Daily Mail that he drunk 15 cans of Special Brew, 50% vodka shots, and a pint of absinth if you wish, as you know it's ****ing unprovable) , or someone who 'did it after hours' (presumably meaning Boris). Boris has stated he went back into work after the 20.5.21 party/work event. You could do with some help from Dominic, you really could. :emoticon-0167-beer:
     
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    Bit like Boris then (after hours) can you prove he had a drink before going back to work?
     
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    A source also told The Independent there were “more parties” that would come to light if Ms Gray “gets the info she ought to get”. However, they added that it was “deeply wrong” that officials would “get the blame” when their actions were sanctioned by the prime minister.

    “He was there for [the parties]. He encouraged people to drink and drank himself. And it was a clear untruth for No 10 to suggest that there was nothing that could be described as [a party],” they said. “It was shocking that they even tried to claim that.”
     
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    I do find the outrage over politicians drinking funny. It's not as though there isn't a very strong history of it in Parliament. The French tried plying Thatcher with good malt during channel tunnel negotiations, then there's Churchill to name just two.

    These idiots actually believe politicians matter and call the shots. Change the colour of the rosette, or the face of the MP, and the decision makers just carry on regardless having stoked up the useful idiots. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    Talking of The Hate:

     
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