Off Topic OLOF's political thread

That isn't the point. There's been a hatchet job on him by 90% of the MSM, big tech and parts of the US government like the FBI.
They want a politician who's not going to rock the boat.
I would guess that, just as in 2016, ordinary working class Americans voted for Trump because they see him as fighting for them.
He offends the lefty, virtue signalling, privileged town and city dwellers (who have the money) so they did everything they could to get rid of him.
And they succeeded.... Just.
This Democratic campaign spent way more money than any in history and won...... Just.

What did he do to you in NY?

 

Ok I'll give you he was a popular TV personality but we all know others who were popular TV people but probably wouldn't have been good Presidents.

 

Oh he was just Trump.

 

We have the internet in the UK.

You have to search deep because there's not much about him before his presidential campaign.

I'm biased because I don't believe a word the MSM tell me.

 

Name me a US President who you would have said was good? They've had some **** ones

 

Keep digging

 

He did that in Scotland too.
It's not personal, it's business.
You don't get to build casinos in Atlantic City without having lots of skeletons in your closet, and you don't become a billionaire by being nice.
Maybe in Disneyland but we don't live in Disneyland

 

I'll give you that but I can name the worst, which probably says it all.

 

The worst!
Nixon resigned.
Both Bushes took the world into wars that we're still getting repercussions from, especially over the WMD lies.
Clinton, well, his friend had a mouthful.
Reagan was an actor, ideal background to be President.

I could go on but I'm nowhere near Trump yet

 

Keep going lower....... in my opinion

 

None of the loony left want to talk about Bidens very dodgy past with his son, strange that.

 

So why is Trump worse than Bush Jnr?
He took us into an illegal war, killing millions of people based on lies. That on its own means he is even worse than Nixon who was exposed by the Press when they were actually journalists.
If you think Trump is worse than them two I can't argue with you because you are deluded

 

Actually, more to the point, what has Trump done in the last four years to make you hate him so much.
Be specific because your opinion must be based on something.

 

Probably because Trump fired one of his favourite apprentices..........

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-real-reason-they-hate-trump-1540148467

This was written before the Coronavirus hit, which, I think, the MSM used to unseat Trump.
It is absolutely spot on.

 

You're wasting your time Blono, the useful idiots have been programmed into hating the Orange man, they just dont know it.
I asked four of my mates when we were in the pub recently why they hated Trump and what he's done wrong as POTUS, they all ooh'd and aah'd and looked at their feet, ****ing clowns
They love boozing with me

 

90% you say, is that en exact statistic?

Irrespective of that - people in positions of power come under greater scrutiny than those that aren’t.

Trump offends people because he has an offensive personality and a very large number of people think he’s a self-serving, populist, lying, amoral, sociopathic prick (maybe the perfect character set for a politician ) . He offends plenty of republicans too.

Those that voted for him might see him as fighting for them, because that’s what he wants them to think. Had the circumstances been right he might have run as a Democrat - he supported them when it suited - and his messaging might be different.

 

As for best and worst presidents - your argument is a bit simplistic - you play the cards you’re dealt - bush had an invasion of Kuwait, donny had Covid. Who’s to say how the other would have handled their situation. Though if Kuwait happened now I guess Donny would just send the invisible f-35’s to deal with it. You can’t shoot ‘em if you can to see ‘em

 

You didn't have a club in your hand at the time (ooooh matron)

 

Obama was the worst president, followed by JFK, Lyndon B Johnson, Carter and Clinton.