A couple of months late but better late than never I suppose. I suspect this will be greated with the usual scepticism by all and sundry. I'm going to take a chill pill and sit back and see what happens now before going off on one again. Sheridan has "a budget" so we are told. Probably not much of one but lets see what he does with it. I'm sort of looking forward to Saturday at the moment.
James Brent says sorry for the first half of the season........OK nothing wrong with that.......although I agree with sensible that it is a little late. So clean slate for owner,manager,staff and players....lets be patient with John Sheridan.....he has a lot of Fletcher Legacy bridges to repair. Will Chadwick be fined or let off........Sheridan says it happened before he took over....so not his decision to make........although he says that Chadwick was definately in the wrong and probably regrets it......I damn well hope so.....will upper management sort it out or fudge along.......at least a fine, they must show that they are backing their new manager.
Bit late now because he has done the deed and is banned for 3 matches. Saw it on some programme and what a dick brain the man is. Still don't get why but what difference does it make. Suspect he will be fined in accordance with whatever fine policy the club has and that will be it.
Since Sheridans arrival a few members from here have gone missing? Perhaps they are still upset that Fletcher got the sack and had done nothing wrong.. its OUR FAULT FOR BEING FANS Must have gone off to see Mr Fletcher sulking? Well that's in the distant now!
f you mean me Joe, no, I've just been very busy and the next few weeks are very predictable: bad results will be the fault of Fletcher recruited players, good ones will be due to Sheridan. Sensible people won't form an opinion for a month or two but of course if Sheridan proves to be another no-better-than-average manager, we could be relegated by then. You may like to read this which confirms that Brent isn't the only owner who's looking for commitement from the fans... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20959480
I will not be saying bad results on Fletcher, he is history now as far as i am concerned. If Sheridan keeps us up it will be good on him if not then at least he has tried his best. The position we are in is down to Fletcher and Brent. Fans won't commit to watching shi t? how do you not get that.. How often have you been under Brent? you never seem to answer that one, but call for all local people to attend?
You in turn seem not to read what I write: everyone is entitled to decide for themselves whether to go or not. However, there's no safety net, if they go, the club will prosper, if they don't, for whatever reason, right or wrong, it will fail. No judgement involved, just a simple, inevitable fact.
and if you mean me joe- ive managed pretty much to stay quiet and, oddly, work got in the way of football. Anyway unless we start to win it will get very predictable with Notdistant and I talking about the reality of the situation and others coming up with lots of fanciful reasons why we are in the position we are. He (sheridan) hasn't even had match yet and i've already seen moans about the new striker and the Purse clone who signed today. Clearly it will all be Brent's fault and someone should buy the club and invest lots of money it and maybe the fans might give the owner a reason to keep the club going- oh sorry been here before, there is no one else. Lets hope we start winning so we can talk about football instead, as discussions on who is to blame are futile.
No moaning on this forum lyndhurst......please don't get us nice types on 606 mixed up with those other types from across the way. I see on Wiki that Guy Branston has been quoted as having acquired 18 red cards during his career........someone for Chadwick & Hourihane to look up to then.
No one on here moaning about Sheridan or any signings.. only about Fletcher, But he is history. Lydhurst did i ever mention you?
You know full well notdistant that the reason the questions are being asked of you personally, no not you lyndhurst, is because you continually point the finger at people not going to Argyle when you yourself do not. You have stated many times it will be the fans fault if Argyle go bust. But, expecting others to do what you are not is something hypocritical. You may have meant it in more general terms but sorry, you always came across as not giving the supporters an option at all. The suggestion was that they should go no matter what they were being served up with. You now appear to have tempered that with you not saying they should go but were merely pointing out the consequences of them not. That is definately not how it came across previously. I am one who goes no matter what even if I am spitting feathers after watching another farce. There are others who do the same but I do not expect anyone else to do what I do. It is personal choice and if they choose not to go then to be fair I fully understand why. If the club goes tits up because fewer people go then that will be down to the owner not providing the customer with a worthwhile product. Not this manager or the last one but Brent. There I've said it who I will consider at fault. You may see it differently and that is up to you but my finger will be pointing in his direction.
Glad you see it also sensible. He knew it was for him as he continually expects everyone else to attend to keep the club going and he sits there typing bile. I have asked and asked him how many times he has been under brent.. never replies and goes away for a few days.. I suspect he has never been to Home park. As i keep saying why should people go and watch s h it , i for one hope it turns around soon.. i have hope. I do go as often as posssible, up until the little one was taken poorly my life had to change and he had to have the support so it meant no season ticket. It was not the money but the care he needs. i was a season ticket holder for 12 years on the trot previous to 26/2/11 when he was born. I have been on a number of occasions and away games still. If things were different id be there every game no matter what.. i do have a go at Fletcher and why not.. Distant you never had to sit and watch the crap its different than reading a report. You see no wrong with Brent or fletcher.. In our Business if we do not perform customers do not come back/ no different than Argyle. value for money is what is wanted and up until now brent has not done that..
I'm not even sure that football supporters demand exactly value for money joe. A lot is forgiven by supporters who are being ripped off constantly as they always have been. However, 5 years of total collapse and absolutely rubbish football in at least 8 out of 10 matches is a lot to expect anyone to take. Even the hardiest of supporters must wonder at their own sanity of still paying. Brent is a business man we are always being reminded. He knows full well the concept of supplying a product that customers will pay for. Whether he knows anything about football or not he knows that much. He has been there and seen the reaction of the masses. Yes they have booed at times. He recognises what that represents and yet sat on his hands I believe in the belief that these thick people would just turn up again the next time as if nothing else mattered. I just hope it isn't to late that he now realises his mistake.
I still struggle to understand why it is Brent's fault. His easiest (and cheapest) option was to not get involved in the first place. Sadly i started watching the team in the mid 80s with crowds of 4000 when macauley owned the place. He seriously didn't give a stuff about the fans or the club but was just on a long ego trip- a bit like the failed drake island fiasco. Staplewallet is/was a huge fan but didn't have the financial clout to sustain the club in the championship and had his head turned by world cup pipedreams that ended in disaster. Brent came on board and saved the club from extinction in the absence of anyone else. Give him a break-unless the fans support the cause by anyway they can (and I respect those that cant for financial or other reasons) he has no incentive to stay- he will not make any money if the club goes bust.
lyndhurst please please please don't fall for the public duty saving or Argyle. Without Argyle Brent would not have aieved his outside interests or the acquiring of land in Central Park to enable him to build more. Brent needed Argyle to do what he is doing in Plymouth. There may not have been anyone else at that moment in time but he didn't do it because he had any conscience or desire to save a dying football club. I would also remind you that the club was also dying in the MacCauley era and without the bad man's cash would have died. He wasn't quite the devil incarnate he was made out to be although he was no saint either. Who financed Shilton's nearly team for example? He was given far more abuse than Brent has ever seen and much of it was very personal indeed.
I don't dispute your MacCauley point sensible- though fortunately my memory is somewhat hazy. I do remember though that he showed little interest in anything other than himself and wanted to offload the club as soon as times were difficult- funny old thing, a buyer with lots of cash was difficult to find so we spent a lot of time with a chairman who didnt want the club and spent the minimum to keep it (barely)alive . At least Brent is humble enough to admit his mistakes, attempts to engage with the fans and genuinely wants the club to do well.- he knew nothing about running a football club so is it any wonder he has made some mistakes. Perhaps we ought to have this discussion in 3 or 4 years time but for now i have no option but to put my faith in JB.
