There are several things that need to happen now: 1. Everyone who counts themselves as a Plymouth Argyle supporter needs to attend every home fixture. 2. To encourage this the Directors of the Club must lower the entry fee to the Stadium to £10 3. When in the stadium, every fan must get behind the team giving 100% vocal support. This is what happened to Swansea 10 years ago. You must do the same or you'll be in the Conference for the next 5 years.
More important that the manager picks the right team,........picks the right tactics...... and orchestrate what happens on the pitch from the dugout,.......changing things around as necessary..........all the above support mentioned is done to a certain degree and it makes no difference to our poor home record.
By Lowering the prices, people still won't Attend! But its never to late. We won't be in the conference.(for to Long)
it is most important you get 1 or 3 points tomorrow. i have just read that hereford may be approaching administration
do not even think about the conference, it is a difficult place to escape from, ask luton grimsby,mansfield york wrexham, lincon stockport etc. we went there with exeter. we were lucky to bounce back after a year thanks to a penalty shoot out in the playoffs. so come on plymouth you need a good run
Well why didn't we think of that before. All we have to do is complete tasks one two and three and it's sorted then. The team haven't lacked support all season and nobody has hissed and booed when we have lost the many games at home either. I think this one is down to the players and manager rather than the supporters.
Well said Sensible we have stood firm behind the team come what may for the past three seasons .... The Green Army are in the Prem its the team and manager who are struggling in Div 2 !
Too true but is it a lack of knowledge, heart or desire or just the fact that it is a team made up of releases and almost rans... Definetly not what the support deserves but IMHO not down to the current staff but the incumbents before them, to blame the players, those who have come in the last 12 months or so, or manager seems a tad unfair. Sorry but I would rather have a team in the conference than no team at all and Brent sticking to his guns and not chucking money we dont have at players might hurt us in the short term but it is the right thing to do.
There are those on other websites who are demanding that Brent do just that mexijan. My gut instrinct is to say what I always said that we must live within our means and no matter what there should be no spending what we haven't got on short termism. No matter what happens this season we will get better. If it is down and out of the league then we will bounce back despite all the doom merchants predictions. I'm not overly impressed with Brent however. I'm not convinced he has actually spent anything out of his own pocket on acquiring the club or supporting it since. I don't agree with him using slight of hand to produce a profit for himself without some or all of it being put back into the football side.
sensiblegreeny It worked for us. It doubled our gates and we haven't looked back since and are currently 8th in The Premiership. If you want to take the p*** out of well meant advice that is up to you.
PGFWhite I accept that the advice is well meaning but if I may say so it is preaching slightly to the converted. We have averaged over 6000 in league 2 following a third year of termoil and struggle. By anyone's standards that isn't bad at all. I have attended every single home match this season and at no time, despite we only got 1 point out of the first 27 on offer, have I heard people booing and hissing at the team or manager. Given some of the standard of football I've witnessed which has been less than dire at times, that isn't bad from the supporters. The only time we have commanded a largish crowd is when we have been doing better than well. The locals turn out for promotions and big cup games but then slowly but surely drift off again if the going gets average or tough. This has been the case for Argyle for years and years. Whilst I would love to see the ground full or nearly full every week, that isn't going to happen as long as the price is what it is and the fare on offer is again what it is. The Owner and the team need to show their merit and fight now not the people who have long suffered but still support. This is to repay the people that have never deserted them and put their hands deep in their pocket to keep money going into their pockets and the staff's pocket whilst the club was doing nothing in Administration. If they continue to try and put in 100%, win or lose the supporters willl back them still even if it means another relegation. The club can ask no more of the fanbase than it is already giving.
Thats why I said "To encourage this the Directors of the Club must lower the entry fee to the Stadium to £10" The Directors need to do it now though!
You missed out the bit where I said "and the fare on offer" PGF. Many people stay away now because the football is mainly crap. If they were playing well and doing well more would come. The price of admission is only part of it.
I've been there SG. This is not about the fare on offer or the style of football. It is not about how you win - it is purely about winning. This is about survival and raw emotion. The last 10 matches of the Swans survival at the foot of Div 4 were like cup finals all the way. The hair used to stand up on the back of my neck such was the emotion. Admission was cut to a fiver and support doubled overnight. The whole atmosphere around the ground changed and the swans, helped by fantastic support, survived - just. I just feel Argyle need to do something similair - before it's too late.
A season ago for one match they tried giving tickets away literally and we just about got to double figures. This is one of the problems we have always had or at least for a long time. The interest unless the team is winning is just not there in sufficient numbers. Plenty of premiership shirts being worn around the City of course which really twangs my bell. Fact is though they just won't come and there is only a hard core 6000 with maybe a thousand or two who "might" turn up. Oh how I wish there was more passion. A price reduction might attract some but I seriously doubt it would be into double figures.
Things will never change for Argyle on the supporter front. A big cup game they come out of there arm chairs. Arsenal in the cup a few years ago over 11k away. Now were are they? I agree the price may be steep but that does not male a blind bit of difference. I would be there every game if circumstances were a bit better. I have only been a handful in 2 seasons but before that 8 years of a season ticket. Its not about the money for me.
Its something we have been over and over again and it really is chicken and egg syndrome. Swansea have had their time in top flight football, and the hard ones too, but having lived up that way for many years and having a lot of jack friends I know even when they where at rock bottom people talked about the Tosh years etc Plymouth dont have that history and that hurts us, best we have ever been is almost close and even then a lot of the fan base where disgruntled because we werent going for it. Success breeds success and we have never had success at top level. I agree with Sensible on the plastic fan syndrone, perhaps we should fine all non Argyle football shirt wearing fans in the city centre on Saturdays proceeds going to PAFC, but it many ways it is PAFC fault for never hitting the top. The hard core base is pretty much inbred how many groups do you see at HP of 2 or 3 generations of family sat together, which is great but not expanding the fan base. We just dont pull in the new fans. Little Jan football mad, bugging Dad to see a football match eventually gets him to to take him to Argyle to see.... oh dear. We have a massive potential fan base but no history of success, so many times around Plymouth I have heard...I dont go to Argyle coz they are crap and always have been. Well trying to explain to these planks that if they went and supported the team and put funds into the club to improve is like trying to herd puppies. From a personal note I was not pushed into Argyle by my father. He was forces and not Plymouth bred and knew nothing about football, as he was a Middlesborough fan, and regularly told me "he wouldnt take me to Argyle as they didnt come and see him when he was bad". However with enough bugging he relented and took me to my first game against WBA, still have the program, result 2 1 to the greens, on my birthday, and I was hooked. Soon as I was old enough to go with my mates I was a regular, when not playing myself. Unfortunaterly that doesnt happen too often and is more down to my dullness than Argyles greatness, started late 70s early 80s not really our finest hours!!! On the other hand my son learned to walk in the family stand and had no choice, he was injected with chlorophyll from birth, and at 8 rated favourite people as Dad, Wotton and Santa in that order but I,m sure Wotton was above me when he scored!!! Last time we were demoted, or maybe time before they are all blending into one now, he was commentating for me over the phone and at the end of the game asked me what the number for the NSPCC as he wanted to report me for child abuse for making him an Argyle fan, I offered to buy him a Man U shirt as compensation.. his reply.... ended in off!! Unfortunately with parachute payments and the current system it is harder for clubs to break into the top flight without Sheik Memoneybags or history of success...chicken and eggs. I officially apply to take the title of longest post submitted off Plym
You want to check some of sensible's ATD posts........I don't think some of them quite get him over there.......he hasn't got the pasoti scars that most of them seem to have.
