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Blatter in another good idea shocker!

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Flyer, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. Flyer

    Flyer Well-Known Member

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25586007

    He wants players to have a set amount of time before they can come back on if they need physio treatment. Good idea if its 5 or 10 mins. Then the fakers wont bother and any injured player will do his utmost to get off if he can. no more lying 1 yard from the touchline when they can easily walk once the game is stopped.

    The only thing I can think off where you cant move but be ok seconds later is being winded and it wont affect properly injured players as they will go off anyway.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. West London Willy

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    All that will happen is that when you are a goal down with ten minutes to go, slyly clatter a couple of opponents, they go off, and you're then playing against nine men for the rest of the game. The only person there who can determine whether the player is really hurt is the physio (employed by the player's team) so he'll say yes every time to get them back on quicker.

    Sorry, but for me, Blatter's reverted to type with this dumb idea....
     
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  3. AKCJ

    AKCJ Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    What a moronic idea.
     
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    Could work if you were allowed back on quicker if you are injured due to a foul, but not if you just fall over for no apparent reason.
     
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  5. Flyer

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    The players will just go off by themselves if they need treatment and come straight back on, its only for time wasting physios on the pitch.
     
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  6. West London Willy

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    OK, in that case the physio will stay off the pitch for fear of costing the team a player for the last 10 minutes, and the player will fail to get the treatment they need. CAn you imagine a situation like Fabrice Muamba happening, and an unqualified person suggesting that the Physio wait a minute to see if he gets up?

    As I said - completely dumb idea. They need to sort out divers, but not like this. Simple solution - send divers off. If it's genuine, then the appeals process can sort it and there's no need for new legislation. And if people (like Young, like Suarez, like Bale) get themselves a reputation that means they lose out, well they should try staying on their feet, shouldn't they...
     
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  7. Flyer

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    If anything, it would speed up a response like that because they will know any player is not faking.

    I still think the better idea is to not allow them to come back on at all, they have to be subbed. That would stop faking and also not give the refs something else to worry about wondering what time they should be allowed on.
     
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  8. West London Willy

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    What if the team has already used all three subs?
     
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  9. Flyer

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    They go down to 10 men.

    If he really cant walk = 10 men anyway
    If hes injured but can carry on = he could walk off himself
    If hes not injured and can carry on = time wasting, breaking up play = not allowed back on

    Tell me how many injuries you can think of where you are physically unable to walk 30 yards yet be perfectly ok 30 seconds later? As I said, being winded is the only one and making 1 or 2 of those go off a season is worth stopping all play acting.
     
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  10. IwasanotherwatfordR

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    I'd rather see sin bins instead of yellows for say 10 mins.
     
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    It's bad enough that a player has to go off anyway let alone this - pure Blatter
     
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  12. Flyer

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    Yeah thats a stupid idea if they come back on right away. However making them stay off is better than having the game stopped all the time, half the time they don't even want the physio, they just want to whine to the ref.
     
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    Use video evidence after the game if a player has clearly dived instant 5 match ban no appeal.
     
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    While this particular idea might need refining the number of people who automatically reject any reform of the game never ceases to amaze me. We must surely all agree that change is badly needed to prevent the amount of really obvious cheating we see in the modern game. It surely can't be impossible to impose even a modicum of the discipline we see in rugby for example. The conservative attitude we see in football is why it took so long to reform the offside law but the huge benefits of that change are clear for all too see despite teething troubles. We need to encourage this experiment and others including the use of sin bins and alternatives to penalties for offences in the box when there is no clear goal scoring opportunity.
     
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  15. Flyer

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    Thats the other thing that needs to be clamped down on and a dive is choosing to go down and deceive the ref or initiating contact by sticking your leg out and then falling over, not just going down on your own.
     
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    A much better idea would be to let the physio's come straight on without stopping play, like in rugby. It would end players feigning injury and time-wasting and also mean that a player with a serious injury could receive immediate attention. Maybe stop play if the injured player is in the 6-yard box or something?
     
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  17. Flyer

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    I talked about that as another option, that would also stop play acting too.

    I suppose they have to go off too and come back on at the halfway line. Either option is better than what we have now but at least Fifa are looking at it which can only be good news.
     
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  18. West London Willy

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    Retrospective video could be used to determine whether a dive took place, and if it resulted in a penalty (and most likely a sending off) that impacted the result, then wipe out that goal and all subsequent scores for the cheating player's dive.

    I appreciate that would also have a knock-on effect on betting (especially in-play bets), but a solution could be found to that, I'm sure. If teams are docked points because of cheting, the teams themselves will come down hard on the cheats because it'll cost them - in some cases up to 60 million if the team gets relegated.
     
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  19. AKCJ

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    5 minutes to go you'll start to see some disgusting tackles. Ridiculous idea.


    If it 'aint broke, don't fix it.

    It was fine before you had to go off to be treated.
     
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  20. Flyer

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    Its clearly broke. You are a moron if you think otherwise.

    Why would players get any off in the last 5 mins because of this change? You don't see it know when teams have already made 3 sub's.


    Id hate to see results changed because of diving, I'd rather use video evidence during and after games with very harsh punishments. Even touchline bans for managers as well.
     
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