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Off Topic Blackbushe Plane Crash

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by Cruyff's Turn, Aug 1, 2015.

  1. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    Carrying members of the Bin Laden family. I'm quite upset, there was an empty seat!
     
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  2. Norfolkbhoy

    Norfolkbhoy Well-Known Member

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    Personally can't rejoice in the deaths of the family of an evil man. Certainly I don't mourn him or any other terrorist taken out by the Americans but I don't think you should be judged on the actions of your family members.
     
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    It would be interesting to know why a plane carrying those people was over UK airspace in the first place. I presume it was not just en route soemwhere else, but I could be wrong.
     
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  4. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmm, the plot thickens.....
     
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  5. The Talking Donkey

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    The Bin Laden family had disowned Osama 20+ years ago. He was a leper to them. Why shouldn't they have been in our airspace? They spend more time in New York than Saudi
     
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  6. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    Flying from italy. Most of the Arabs have houses in the Ascot area and Blackbushe is the nearest airfield. The problem is it has limited landing space compared to Farnborough and the aircraft type had a relatively high landing speed. It appears that the pilot approached high and so increased his descent rate, overshot the "numbers" as they call the start of the runway and was then overspeed. Left it late before trying to go around and stalled into the car park.
     
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  7. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    On their way to Goodwood perhaps?
     
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  8. Cruyff's Turn

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    No, holidaying in the UK. Multi million pound mansion in Berkshire paid for by us at the pumps.
     
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  9. K E M P

    K E M P Well-Known Member

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    Wow, CT you are coming across very bitter. Think most of our fuel cost is made up of VAT from our government. God forbid a business trying to make a buck. They are family of Bin Laden not him.
     
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  10. Rich44

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    To be fair though they do all have a cartel to control the price of crude but yes 90% of the cost at the pump is tax & vat. That's why the treasury love it when petrol prices rise.

    Comes back to Corbyn again democracy & capitalism in this country is just too broken. Need a reboot of the lot.
     
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  11. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    That's bollocks Kempy, I was going to go on to say "And you know it" but you clearly don't, do you? The VAT/Tax goes to pay for schools,hospitals,police,benefits, - and of course defence an increasing proportion of which now goes to anti terrorist work to prevent the very people who are sponsored increasingly by the Saudis to kill our, (And in many cases their) people. Furthermore Arab money, (Russian and Chinese too) much of it dodgy, forces up London and Home Counties property prices so those people move out to the provinces and force up prices there too. Something that I would argue is very nice for those of us whose houses are spiralling upwards but not good for those who need a roof over their heads. Bitter? Not really, this weekend a gentleman from Romford offered me £150k more for my shack than I paid for it in 2012. It's nice, but it's not right.

    On the crash itself I have a friend with access to the flight data. The aircraft was operating on the limit as regards landing length available and he touched down late. His average speed was 160mph over the first 600metres and 130mph over the next 200m. The implication of this is that he tried to get airborne again to go around. He had 400m of runway left to do that and it seems he pulled back to get airborne and stalled,falling into the BCA car park.
     
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  12. Cruyff's Turn

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    Initial accident report suggests the pilot had to avoid a microlight on his final approach and this disrupted his path. Why such an experienced pilot (57 y/o 11000 hours) didn't go around who knows?
     
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  13. K E M P

    K E M P Well-Known Member

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    Don't take the £150k then. Take the moral high ground.
     
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