The sneaky government are planning to bring in Covid passports for access to sporting events after 19th July, I don't think the lying cock Boris mentioned this yesterday in his press conference. Info as been passed to Telegraph. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2...Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1626185611 This is paywalled so I copied the text from the website Covid passports and masks required at sporting events in England after July 19 By Ben Rumsby 13 July 2021 • 3:06pm 4-5 minutes Fans attending sporting events in England after July 19 will require a Covid passport and will be told to wear masks, Telegraph Sport can reveal. The Government will this week issue guidance to sports ahead of a return to full capacity after Boris Johnson revealed venues with large crowds would be urged to adopt Covid certification - proof of full vaccination or evidence of a negative test - “as a matter of social responsibility”. The use of Covid passports and masks - an exception could be made for the latter in outdoor settings - will not be mandatory at this juncture but it is unthinkable sports will ignore official guidance given their duty of care to those attending. The Prime Minister’s announcement saw one senior figure in football denounce the “bloody appalling” inconsistency of the Government’s position on Covid certification, which it had previously considered before appearing to rule out. But sport had called for the measure if it meant being allowed to return to full capacity and has long been planning to adopt it if required. A Whitehall source told Telegraph Sport: “We are going to strongly encourage sports to use it.” The source said that Covid certification could avoid a venue being ordered to reduce its capacity if new nationwide coronavirus restrictions were imposed in the autumn or winter. “I think sports will be fairly strongly incentivised to do it.” On masks, the source added: “Through guidance, we will be encouraging the use of masks. Certainly, an event organiser can put it as a condition of entry.” It had yet to be determined on Tuesday exactly which events would be covered by the guidance, but the source said: “I think most Premier League and EFL clubs will be.” Covid certification has already been used at pilot events for the return of crowds to sport, which have witnessed major changes to how those events are organised. That includes staggered entry times, something that could be more difficult to manage at the country’s largest venues, particularly at midweek evening games. A source at one ‘Big Six’ Premier League club admitted that would present “a challenge”, revealing fans could be warned they may need to alter long-established pre-match routines. “One of the things clubs face is that supporters have their routines ingrained,” the source said. “You walk a certain way to the ground, you meet at a certain time beforehand, you have routines and rituals around going to the game. Most fans do. “So having to stagger entry and tell different fans to arrive at different times, clubs are going to have to be very, very clear and up front to communicate that.” Another issue with the pilot events has been that Covid certification is provided primarily via the NHS App, which those attending have struggled to access when the phone network gets overloaded in crowded areas. In future, people will be advised to keep their apps open as they are getting close to a venue or ensure they have an offline copy of their Covid certificate. There is also the potential problem of unvaccinated spectators self-administering a test and choosing to record a negative result even if they are positive - as there is currently no requirement to provide any proof of the outcome. One source said: “Think of the moral dilemma: you’re about to leave for the cup final; what do you do if you’re positive?” But the same source said this would become a minor issue given far more people will have Covid certification through being double-jabbed.
Young kids who are only just getting a jab won’t have their second for 12 weeks! So would they be excluded from attending?
Medical and Social Apartheid, will the stewards be wearing brown shirts at the turnstiles and checking papers ? a disgusting idea and more blackmail and coercion because jab uptake as sharply dropped of in the young. Not everyone as a smart phone so who's providing the paper documentation as doctors won't ? There will of course be a court case over this, the hospitality industry are already prepped and ready as far as there own industry is concerned. As for the masks, Wembley showed how complaint people would be on that one.
Here’s the actual details rather than the Telegraph version (not read it so no idea if it’s any different though) https://www.gov.uk/guidance/demonstrating-your-covid-19-status
It does seem bizarre that you can go on the bus, and then in to pub, and then get asked to put a mask on when you're stood near a big open field.
Quick glance. You can login and print it out yourself so no need for smartphone or Doctor Also for those who do have smartphones it looks like it’s through the actual NHS app…not the Serco / Dido / Matt Hancock’s landlord (?) version which is the ‘NHS’ Covid App
Second quick glance (feel free to correct my glances by the way, they are genuinely just my take as I scan read it) It suggests they’re not for sporting events at all, apart from the Events Research Programme trials. I’ve no idea how many of those are left though. I think Wembley was one?
Third quick glance They’ll post you a letter out of you want by ringing 119 It looks more like it’s for travel to countries that require it rather for football next season to me?
Dennis@ that link all relates to the test events not whats coming re domestic passports, loads are deleting the Nhs app at the moment because of the fear of being pinged yet that will likely still be the main mode of admittance to any venue, as for the paper copies sure they'll get printed off en masse by certain Del Boy types and be freely available for use making the whole thing a farce.
Has anyone returned to England and done the covid tests on day 2 and day 8 during your 10 day isolation? How, where and how much are they charging?
Ah sorry It was only updated 4 days ago so I assumed that was it Looks like Telegraph are doing their usual of publishing what the Govt are considering doing, so they can gauge public opinion before deciding what to actually do. Probably best to wait to see what actually gets announced. I wouldn’t be surprised if they keep this guidance pretty much as it is, but then ‘strongly encourage’ clubs to adopt it themselves so if clubs don’t and there’s an outbreak it’s the clubs fault…and if they do and people get narked it’s the clubs fault. TWT
Oh and isn’t the NHS app that pings you, that’s the one laughingly called the NHS Covid app, but is actually the Serco one The actual NHS app is really good. It allows you to access all your medical tests, prescriptions etc
I don't think you'll be welcome on many buses without a mask, even if the regulations governing that will be changing. I strongly suspect it will be added to conditions of carriage for most bus companies.
