As this expression is being bandied about so much, and mostly incorrectly, I thought I'd check the online dictionary definition. You can all look it up for yourselves and draw your own conclusions. I hope that none of you mean that those who you call fickle are changeable in their affections. or disloyal. That is the common usage of the word. If it is what you mean, those you call fickle may well find it offensive. Also where exactly do you draw the line? What about owners who move their affections from one club to another until they find one that wants their money so badly that they don't really care. By that definition every owner with the exception of Chris Wright we've had, even Jim Gregory, is fickle at heart. Just because some of us may have despaired and written off our chances some time ago does not mean that the 'offenders' need to be branded as disloyal or even worse accused of switching their affections and allegiances for another club. We all hurt when we lose or play badly. We all rejoice when we do the impossible and swhen we play well. We are all Rangers at heart and will remain so. It's in the blood. Being fickle means being the opposite of constant. An unwillingness to listen to and accept criticism of those you support is, in my view at least as damaging. I hope that when the dust has settled neither side will be crowing and wishing to say "I told you so". Can we all take a chill pill now and concentrate on doing our bit to encourage the great escape?
If they call us fickle, we can call them delusional. Equally ridiculous but a good antidote to their attacks.
The definition of being fickle litterally describes about 90% of football fans..... Fickle: 1. likely to change, especially due to caprice, irresolution, or instability; casually changeable: fickle weather. 2. not constant or loyal in affections: a fickle lover. So many football fans are quick to love a player or manager when they are playing well or doing things right....when things go wrong they will shout out for a witch hunt to burn him at the stake! This is so apparent when you go to games week in, week out.......whats also funny is the objection people take to being called fickle, when its the essence of their opinions!
As a supporter I reserve the right to be critical of and even forecast the defeat of MY club. It's not being disloyal or 'fickle', it's being realistic. How many of you honestly think that if we go to the Etihad on the final day with us needing a win to stay up and City needing a win for the title that we will get anything? The percentage chance of us winning there is less than 10%, that's being realistic and as QPR are my club I can say that and not give a toss what anyone else thinks. We've had a traumatic season that looked to be going only one way till the Liverpool match, the rollercoaster since then is nothing new, we are QPR!...
I think people get easily confused with the definition.....changing your opinion on how well we will do on a game by game basis is not fickle, thats realistic expectations based on team performance. Fickle to me is like Spurs fans, where Harry Redknapp has taken them from near relegation, to one of their highest finishes and playing some of the best football in donkeys......but then Spurs have a little wobbly and then you hear Spuds fans shouting..."Harry Out!".....
beautifully dressed up but i have to add that a lot of the disagreements on here and we have all had them, have arisen from a non consistent viewpoint from us all QPR brothers. however this great football club has given us belief and re-united us recently. i have always called a brother a brother on here, i found some of the slagging off after poor results fickle i still do. however i am just as guilty as i have had to stand corrected on joey barton. i am pleased that we have rediscovered our proud fan base on here ... if we fall then we should be proud of the team recently
Changing your mind about someone or a situation is not being fickle. I have stated that I didn't believe Barton really cared about our club when he first joined and played so averagely. I have stated recently that, having continued to assess the situation I now believe that Joey cares about the club. I still don't particularly like the bloke but I recognise a change in his attitude and more importantly his form.
This is sport ,this is football and supporting your team gives you a chance to be a fickle minded or constant minded. No matter who of those you would be ,but in my book is great to be in that situation where you can say:" I told you so!" When things turns to happen as you were hoping. Equally so im always first to confess that :"It was great be wrong" when things turns out to be better than you thought. As has happened after victories from liverpool ,arsenal and spurs.
Disagree entirely. If we fall then we have failed. If we fall, despite having won a few good games recently, its the result of losing against sh*t teams just a couple of months ago. You're very easily pleased. Maybe you like Oakwell and fu*king London Road but I prefer Old Trafford and games in which the teams can actually pass the ball.
no idea if we will fail but lets count the number of people who said we are down we ****ed etc including that Frank Jesus idiot before we played Liverpool ... if we fail then we gave it a fantastic shot by winning 4 at home with a team still growing together. i think by now you would know what i want for rangers
A great discussion thread. Thanks Yorkie! Like the majority of sports fans I rise and sink with the tide of our fortunes and results. That's our nature as fans and I make no apologies for it. If I think something or someone is over a period of time drawing us down, I'm likely to say so regardless of whether I think anyone's listening. However, after more than four decades supporting this club, I can't deny that I do take exception to suggestions that expressed concerns and reality checks equate to fickleness and/or disloyalty to the cause. Swords calls such views delusional. I call it taking the piss tbh.
Me too. Now that's what I call a real stadium. Comfortable seats, fabulous views and so i'm told the place rocks when Barnsley have a full house. I can believe considering the night we had there last April when 1500 of us sounded like 15,000. May not be Theatre of Dreams but who cares. They're glad to see you and make you feel welcome.
Surely this is just a case of parameters. Presumably we can be fickle with regard to our expectations for our team, while being resolute in our hopes as well as our support. I have, like many, been yo-yoing between believing that we will stay up or go down, but I sincerely hopes that no one would ever question my support of the club.
I do..I only get to see them a few times a year and I'd much rather it was in the prem against top oppo, than grimsby (clue is in the name) on a tuesday night. Just a personal thing though
No one should but some of the comments which have come from the users of the "F word" do seem to question the sincerity of the support of those they have used it against. By all means, those who believe that you should not contribute at all unless it is always positive should be encouraged to put their rosy-tinted views to the rest of us. Just don't treat us as though you are the only true supporters and that all others should be treated as non-believers of the one true faith. By the way, Justin P how would you "pickle the fickle" and is there any way back through repentance as far as you are concerned? I only ask.
