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Bates out

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ristac, Oct 5, 2013.

  1. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    Bates Out he is killing our club..... Oh hang on, didn't he leave?
     
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  2. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

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    The bankers are just a follow on from Bates. They just say the right things to us supporters.
     
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  3. 666 & Elmo

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    Hello Clive. Thought you'd been banned
     
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  4. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    I am starting to think he had a point...

    In all honesty I have never liked GFH and at 2-0 down today; looking at the team selection, looking at the bench, looking at previous results and league position I am starting to see he might have had a point about the manager.
     
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  5. MarkoLUFC

    MarkoLUFC Well-Known Member

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    How morbid and pointlessly negative.

    I didn't realise a financial mess could be sorted overnight.
     
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  6. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    Many can with a cash injection, not rocket science
     
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    Norwayleedsforever Well-Known Member

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    GFH is just as bad as Bates was and they need to sell up asup
     
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  8. MarkoLUFC

    MarkoLUFC Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like they have been injecting cash to sort the liabilities and debts out. Sounds like all of our breathing room has been taken up by sorting out those liabilities and debts. What then? Shower me with your genius and wisdom.
     
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  9. MarkoLUFC

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    How do you figure that out? Do they sell our best players then spend the money on needless luxuries for themselves and building projects? No they ****ing don't.

    The club is a mess because of the previous owners, and the current ones clearly saw potential in it, despite having to clean up the mess of their predecessors, which still hasn't been cleaned up because it can't be done overnight thanks to liabilities like a £3.3 million season ticket mortgage, for example. There's also £3.5 million in rent for the stadium and the training facility. Then there's countless "unknown costs" that we're probably contractually obligated to pay that essentially amount to every one of kens mates skimming off the top.

    I think I'm going to take a break from this forum and forums in general. I'm sick and ****ing tired of all the moaning. The club is in a horrible mess because that is what ken bates did to us. We could see that years ago, some of us could see that it was going to continue to affect us long after the takeover was finalised.

    The rest are acting like heartbroken teenage girls who then treat everyone like **** and blame it on a bad relationship, never trust anyone ever again and end up dying alone. Get a ****ing grip for christs sake.
     
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  10. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    Can you point me to some facts rather than hearsay and rather than the spin GFH are putting out? NOPE you can't

    Listen - You have your opinion fine, I don't agree, I see GFH as maybe ever so slightly better than having Bates in charge but only just.
     
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    ristac Well-Known Member
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    No they sold our best player Becchio so that they could announce a profit to the investors and I will bump this point when they sell Byram before they have finished.

    Bye bye :emoticon-0172-mooni
     
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    I don't know what the **** is going on behind the scenes, hence I don't comment much on the subject, but I am losing patience with GFH, if they don't back McD with some serious money then he should tell them to stick their job and walk, if they have told Macca he can get someone in then he has to answer some questions as to why the **** he hasn't got a winger and a striker in, maybe its too late now. we don't deserve this ****.
     
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  13. MarkoLUFC

    MarkoLUFC Well-Known Member

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    How the **** do you work that one out? Do you think £200 000 is going to make any ****ing difference between making a loss and making a profit?

    Even if it does, that means the best case scenario was that the club broke even, then sold Becchio, and announced a £200k profit. Are the investors going to give two ****s about a £200k profit on a club that turns over £30 million +?

    Do you even read what you type before you post it?
     
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  14. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    I thought you were taking a break?
     
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    With just the most readily available facts - the wage bill, the season ticket mortgage, the stadium and training facility rent and the purchase of Luke Murphy, you can work out with simple maths that we've already spent close to our turnover for last year and we haven't sold anyone this year, meaning our turnover will probably be less. Ticket sales have gone up but prices have gone down.

    It doesn't take a genius to work out that spending money for the sake of it on anybody who's available (which is essentially what you're expecting us to do because any signing at all is apparently better than nothing, regardless of the cost) will put us very close to breaking the rules of the ****ing league. And then what do we do when somebody decent is available? We'd miss out on them, because we pissed all our money away on journeymen, like we've done for the last god knows how many seasons. Then you'd be moaning that we missed out on a good player.

    You're all pissing and moaning and saying you trust the manager but not the owners, but it appears to be the manager who is making the decisions on who he brings in. So it doesn't matter if Billy Sharp was available if the manager doesn't think he'd fit into the system he wants to build. And that's what he's doing, building a system. And it will take time, and he will get it wrong before he gets it right.

    Jesus f-ing Christ, I hate the world we live in. Why is everything so instant gratification? Why does everything have to happen now? Answer? It doesn't. Because instant gratification is unsatisfying, and when things do go right in the short term people still ****ing moan about it.

    Just get a ****ing grip of yourselves you massive overgrown ****s of children. I have a ****ing government recognised attention disorder that gives me access to disability benefits and even I have more patience than you lot.
     
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  16. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    I thought you were taking a break?

    Define all?
     
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  17. bucks_is_leeds

    bucks_is_leeds Jonny big spuds
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    Come on lads, keep it civil. Your both never going to agree so theres nothing wrong with debate but lets not start infighting, your both supporters of the club so keep the digs for the wums which both of you quite clearly aren't <ok>
     
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  18. ristac

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    I thought I had kept it quite civil but taken on board <ok>
     
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  19. MarkoLUFC

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    No we're not going to agree because some of us are reasonable and can see the big picture and others are just overgrown babies who are crying because everything isn't happening now, so are making assumptions even though if they actually sat down and thought about it they'd know our football club is financially ****ed because that's what ken did to us and you don't fix a mess like that overnight, unless you're a billionaire and enjoy transfer embargos.

    I'm just sick of hearing all the pissing and moaning. Nothing's ever good enough. The reality is we've no chance of going up this season, but we wouldn't have had any better chance of going up with a few additional signings because the core of the squad is still the same and is still not good enough. You still have ****e players who aren't good enough like Paul Green and Luke Varney and Lee Peltier and Stephen Warnock who aren't going anywhere because they are on long contracts. Unless somebody on here has some more of somebody else's money hidden up their arse that they'd quite happily spend on paying off overpaid footballers who aren't good enough?

    Mediocrity is rife throughout our whole squad and unless you want a 40 man squad and a transfer embargo that's not about to change any time soon, so ****ing get used to it. If you're a real Leeds United fan you're in for the long haul.
     
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  20. Eireleeds1

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    I said from day one gfh haven't a pot to piss in. They don't but think they can find others to sort out the mess they knew they were getting into. We will be in serious trouble if they don't sell up ASAP. We are no better than last season. Proof, did anyone expect us to win today. Doubt it, we're still going into each game expecting defeat and less than a hammering is hailed as some sort of improvement. At recast half the current team are crap and need replacing with quality. Forget the ****e that were two players short. Two transfer window have passed. They were better than what bates presided over, but that sure as he'll doesn't make them anywhere near acceptable
     
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