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Bassini 5-0 Doubters

Discussion in 'Watford' started by babyhornetdan, May 15, 2012.

  1. babyhornetdan

    babyhornetdan Well-Known Member

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    So thats the pitch, new big screen, yellow and red lion, PA system and the bond repayments all as promised.

    Take a :emoticon-0139-bow: Mr Bassini. You have shown that you are better than Simpson and Ashcroft.
    This is for the doubters who are continuously being proved WRONG! :emoticon-0172-mooni :emoticon-0169-dance
     
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  2. Leo

    Leo Well-Known Member

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    You are easily pleased Dan

    I'm staying on the fence re Baz
     
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  3. geitungur akureyrar

    geitungur akureyrar Well-Known Member

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    It is good he did not promise promotion or we would have been with the big boys with no money.
     
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  4. babyhornetdan

    babyhornetdan Well-Known Member

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    Im not easily pleased, i am just simply stating that thats 5 promised kept and none broken. Yes there is plenty more to come, but its getting better by the month.

    p.s. it was a little tongue in cheek
     
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  5. North North Watford

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    Three of those things were very small net expenses (that includes the pitch, due to the extra Saracens money in the last two years), one is detachable (the Red Lion could easily be sold off), and the bonds are being paid through player sales.

    None of those things are in themselves reasons to criticise Bassini, but all of them are reasons to remain very firmly on the fence. The proof one way or the other will be in the stadium. End of story.
     
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  6. babyhornetdan

    babyhornetdan Well-Known Member

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    I know, its not al perfect yet. We will have to see about the SW corner and the East stand yet. But i like being right for once, its not often it happens.
     
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  7. North North Watford

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    You'll only be right if the stadium comes off. <ok>
     
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  8. oldfrenchhorn

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    Sorry Dan, another fence sitter here. Look back a few months at what was going to happen over the SW Corner and Main Stand during this summer. Sarries will have paid for the pitch and the pub was a total shock to GT and ST at the fans forum which Baz failed to make. I assume that the New Year has not started yet as he still hasn't turned up at 3CR to do his promised phone in. :(
     
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  9. hornethologist a.k.a. theo

    hornethologist a.k.a. theo Well-Known Member

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    Early goals don't mean you've won the game...
     
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  10. babyhornetdan

    babyhornetdan Well-Known Member

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    True, but 5-0 at half time usually equates to a win.
     
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  11. oldnickhornet

    oldnickhornet Active Member

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    Oi Mr Chateauroux, you're supposed to be on yer hols !! (raining yet again down south?).

    I wont be so diplomatic Mr Baby, you (& yer pals) ARE very easily pleased. Ask yer elders wot this club used to be capable of, WFC have settled for mediocrity, conforted by the attitude of those who go overboard if achieve a mid-table finish to the season.Chairman less likely to attend matches than me(and that takes some doing!).....meanwhile wot a laughing stock we must be to the rest of of the football world with our quaint ,(how many years now)? 3 sided ground !
     
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  12. wear_yellow

    wear_yellow Well-Known Member

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    As I have always said, I will judge Baz by his actions. So far his actions have not harmed our club and he has delivered some of the things he said he will do - OK, they may be easy, but he could have trousered the Saracens money. So I am OK as long as the club is not harmed - and as Dan states, he has done more positives things in 12 months than all the time Simpson and Cashcroft were in charge.
     
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  13. Mexican Hornet

    Mexican Hornet Well-Known Member

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    The 3 sided ground is a joke. Need that other stand up ASAP...
     
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  14. Roger68

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    Northnorth--the "proof" will not be in the stadium, but in Bass's end game --whatever that is, because it still remains a mystery.

    wear-yellow--at an equivalent point in Simpson's tenure we were still singing his praises. He had saved the club with his own money, appointed a dashing young manager and got us into the Premiership. Let us judge Bass after 5 years, not less than two .And Ashcroft ensured the survival of the club with his personal loans and equity investments, so he does not compare unfavourably either. We still do not know where Bass's money comes from , how much he has put into the club from his own resources, or if he intends (or is able) to invest more.

    Dan--Bass has not been the disaster we feared, but we only feared he would be a disaster because of his history, his secrecy, his erratic (and at times inept) behaviour, and the way his intentions and business practices remain shrouded in secrecy. The improvements delivered during his ownership are real ones, but are fairly modest and have been funded from windfalls (Saracens, Ashley Young, Mackay compensation, unexpected transfer of Buckley...) . The club has been kept solvent and is paying off the bonds thanks to us continuing with the financial model set up by Winter, and because we have found a £3m player to sell for the last two seasons. That last part is not luck, because it is the result of how the club finds/develops players, but it is not due to Bass's leadership or financial savvy. From his point of view it IS luck. But he knows that we need another big saleable asset next season, and one more after that, if his "lucky streak" is to continue.

    The main thing about Bass so far is that he has kept GT on -board and seems to be learning not to be so impulsive in his decision making. He has left SD alone to run the football side and given him reasonable/realistic financial support over transfers and wages. He still makes more promises than he can keep, and is frustratingly secretive about his own finances and intentions. If he keeps us out of administration and in this division for two more seasons while the bonds are paid off then he will be seen as a "good" owner. I don't ever see us naming a stand after him though.
     
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  15. North North Watford

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    Same difference.

    If the stadium gets completed, it's hard to envisage circumstances under which his endgame would be particularly harmful to the club. If it doesn't, the best we can hope for from his exit route is being back to square one.
     
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  16. LuxWFC

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    The new PA system still isn't that good to be honest.
     
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  17. babyhornetdan

    babyhornetdan Well-Known Member

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    Whats wrong with it? Its 20x's clearer than the old one, you can hear it all the time without it cutting out, you can actually talk to someone in the front 5 rows now instead of having to bellow over the racket.
     
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  18. Hornette_TID

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    agree with MM about the PA system, it's not great. Yep, i'm a fence sitter too...as has been said, all he has 'done'...has been easy, and yes, he's done them, but the thing that counts is the ground, when that's done, i'll climb off the fence.
     
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  19. Norwayhornet

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    Credit where credits due ,whilst not earth shattering he has done what he said he would in the main ,that said jury still out .
     
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  20. babyhornetdan

    babyhornetdan Well-Known Member

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    Let me make this clear, i am not saying he is 100% perfect. Just that he has done 5 things that people have said he would fail to do.

    1) people said he was bankrupt so would not pay off the bonds on time but he has so far.
    2) People said he would not replace the PA system- he has done
    3) people said he would not re-open the RYL- Its open and a fair success.
    4) people doubted that he would put in a new screen but he has
    5) people said that the pitch would not be done- its being done.

    Therefore he has kept 5 promised he made when he took over. Yes there are more bond payments to make and a stadium to re-build, but he is nearly there.
     
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