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  1. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    European court says 'kettling' tactics in 2001 lawful

    "Kettling" tactics used by the Metropolitan police to contain crowds in 2001 were lawful, the European Court of Human Rights has ruled. The controversial method was used during anti-globalisation demonstrations in London on 1 May 2001.

    Police blocked off Oxford Circus and corralled those inside for seven hours. The court said there had been no violation of Article 5 - the right to liberty and security - of the European Convention on Human Rights.

    Three people - George Black, a Greek national from Australia; Bronwyn Lowenthal and Peter O'Shea - who had nothing to do with the demonstration, (aye right) took the case to Europe claiming they were "deprived of their liberty". They were joined by Lois Austin, from Basildon, Essex, who had been taking in the protest.

    The court said: "The police had imposed the cordon to isolate and contain a large crowd in dangerous and volatile conditions. "This had been the least intrusive and most effective means to protect the public from violence. Although the police tried to start dispersing the crowd throughout the afternoon, they had been unable to do so as the danger had persisted."

    The House of Lords had earlier ruled kettling on that day had been "necessary, proportionate and lawful". Earlier this year, in a separate case, the Met has won its appeal against a High Court ruling over kettling tactics used during G20 demonstrations in 2009.

    In that case Hannah McClure, a student, and Josh Moos, a campaigner for Plane Stupid, challenged the legality of restraint methods used against them in April 2009 when they were contained by officers in Bishopsgate in the City of London.

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    Common sense from Europe, makes a nice change.
     
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  2. Otto Flayshow

    Otto Flayshow Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad I wasn't hanging by the nuts while they made their minds up.
     
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  3. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    Dev supports the police shocker!
     
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  4. Cyclonic

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    Can't have people doing what ever they want.
     
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  5. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    I loved using my truncheon, sue me (not literally of course)
     
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  6. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Exactly <ok>
     
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  7. Jimmy Savile

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    I'll ****ing sue you ya muckraking **** <grr>
     
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  8. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    You mean like the bankers paying themselves huge bonuses while people lose their jobs.

    Better not protest about it though. That would make you the bad person.
     
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  9. Cyclonic

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    Anyone can find a reason to protest, but there comes a time when if all are allowed to vent their spleen, everything grinds to a standstill. I'm not saying that they didn't have a gripe, but in the end, non protesters have to be protected.
     
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  10. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    Anyone can find a reason to protest but few do. Most prefer to sit in front of a computer tut tutting at those who do.

    It's why ****s get away with being ****s and everyone else gets ****ed <ok>
     
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  11. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    Did protesters kill an innocent bystander in Ian Tomlinson?
     
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  12. Cyclonic

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    People who sit in front of computers are not allowed an opinion?
     
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  13. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    Did I or anyone else say such a thing?
     
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  14. Cyclonic

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    I'm not suggesting that they didn't have a serious point to make, but if another innocent is killed or injured, this time by the protesters, it is just as wrong. Sometimes the greater good has to be applied.
     
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  15. Go G YellowScreen

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    And what happens if someone is killed as a result of kettling?
     
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  16. Cyclonic

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    Good point. But if the demonstration held no risk to the general public, there would be no reason for kettling.
     
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  17. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    You base all of your arguments on if.
     
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  18. Cyclonic

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    If does not negate the point.
     
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  19. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    I got kettled once. At a party. Right over the napper. Thankfully it was neither hot or full of water.
     
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  20. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    "If" is used to define one of multiple sides of an arguement. :grin:
     
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