There are some reports saying we may sell, our top goal scorer (30year old for 19million): I can't see him wanting to leave as he does love the club, but if the story's are to believed and are correct then nearly 20m for a 30year old player is not bad business and SAF & Gill have always done whats in the best interest of the club. Personally If Berba go's I would want a young replacement (purchased, someone like D.Sturridge, read below) ) or someone that give's us something different we could use in games. As for me Welbeck is not United class I'm sorry but his not and its time some of die-hard fans need to wake up and relies etc! The fact his now a capped England forward would could demanded a free of around £15-20million, personally I would use this to buy someone young like "Dean Sturridge" I think his a better overall type of player, and a better finisher, Chelsea valve him at around £20m but I think a bid of around £15m would be enough to secure him "what do you Gents think"? The only reason "Welbeck" his still with us, is the fact he came through the young system. Anyone who watched the 2011 UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship would agree, yes he scored but he missed a few easy sitters. Yeah he had a good season at Sunderland last year but i doubt he could do this again, if not sold then has to be loaned out again to see how he finds his 2nd season in the P.L. Now some of you may say I'm mad but for me there's still something about "Macheda", his still only 19years old every good in the air and more of a box striker for me an Welbeck ever will be! Macheda will score more goals in a season if given the type of run Danny was last year at Sunderland, of this I am sure lad's. There's no way Diouf (is not United class, should be sold as well. As the lad is not going to get much first team football). But I do like the idea of playing Young or Nani as a backup second or 3rd striker, this could work every well and would offer us so much attacking speed up front: Rooney / Lit-Pea / Macheda / Owen Nani / Young Valancia or Nani Park / Anderson / Sneijder (Imagen him playing all the strings & linking up with Rooney) / Fletcher / Carrick / Cleverley-(Would worry me in big games I fear), with giving the like's of Paul Pogba some game time as well. I really like him. Ravel Morrison as well if this lad can sort out his private life and troubles. Sorry Gents a few points made above, but let me know what you think and your reason why you disagree etc?
1. Berb may not want to leave the club, but as his agent has said he may leave on a free next summer I think we would do well to consider cashing in now. 2. Do you mean Daniel Sturridge? If so I think there is no chance Chelsea would sell one of their most talented young players to their main PL rivals. 3. I'm not sure on what basis you're dismissing Welbeck. If it's based on the Euro U21s then we should also sell Rooney based on his terrible 2010 WC. I think we should (and will) give Welbeck a chance this year, and see how he does in the first team. 4. Same with Macheda - he will get his chance to impress for us this year. I am not going to judge him or Welbeck until they've had a run of games. 5. Agree with Young and Nani possibly being used as back second strikers if Berb leaves (mainly cos I suggested it ) 6. From what I've seen of Pogba he needs more game time to step up. He plays very well at times, but not consistently well. Hopefully some CC time will help this season, but he may need time on loan to make the grade. Tunnicliffe may well be the next youth player to step up imo, depending on how his loan period goes.
If we sell Berba, we will be in a terrible situation. Hernandez is not yet good enough as his overall game is very poor. Why oh why does a team like ours rely on such limited players.
Hmmm I would like to keep Berbatov, but an offer of about £20m is fantastic for a 30 year old and I would find it hard to keep him for that. I do think Welbeck is good enough and he proved it with his performances last season and against Barcelona the other day, where he was possibly our best player or one of. We do have 2 very good strikers and I reckon Rooney will be on good form most of the season as he's had a good preseason to set him up. If I was the gaffer, I'd sell Berbatov for sure if we signed Sneijder. If we don't sign Sneijder I'd keep Berbatov.
Swarbs - I would never judge any player on a poor Championship, I'm talking overall and his general game. Now I read a lot of your stuff as you talk alot of sense but I'm just worried we'er seen the best of Danny already at Sunderland. Now can you really tell me you see his guy leading the line for sure, should anything happen to Rooeny or Henandez? I'm sorry but i don't, I've watched him coming through the ranks. He come with some much hope and does have ability but I'm sorry its now united class and i doubt he'll step up to the mark, but as a fan I'm hope I'm wring and as long as he wears our shirt I will always support the lad. The Daniel Sturridge thing yes I couldn't see Chelsea selling him to us, but I do rank him alot higher an Danny as his overall game is much better. Forget the City thing i City thing for a min, I wouldn't mind seeing him in our group of players to call on etc. Only time will tell mate, and yes I agree Ryan Tunnicliffe looking the part. But I still wouldn't mind seeing Pogba getting thrown in the first team and seeing how he does "first hand".
PHK_MUFC Can you define Utd class? I love this term but what does it actually mean. I mean you keep using it but can you define it? You keep talking about overall game and then call Hernandez a good player? Hernandez has the worst overall game out of our strikers. Welbeck has a much better overall game when compared to Hernandez. I do agree though, Welbeck is not good enough and Kiko has more to him and I also believe Hernandez is not good enough to lead our line as well. Too limited and has one of the worst overall games I have seen from a top team striker.
Agree if we do in fact finally (some how) agree a deal to sign "Sneijder" then Berba will be sold, if not then Both Danny & Diouf are both going back out on loan (would suggest first part of the season, to see how they do and the plus factor Danny will get games and a good run in the team. Sunderland I'm sure would be a for sure taker again). The Diouf loan will be based on us selling him in the end I'm sure, started really well at B.B but then run out of steam i think. A long run of games would do the lad a world of good and also help us up his price if we were to sell him.
I'll happy define it, but first let me make this point apart form the C.L final where Hernadezs went missing through lack of overall service from the team. His general conurbation to the team weather it be running into open space, chasing down the ball or his box goal scoring, which were a ket factor in us lifting our 19th title last year. I'm sorry but I dont agree that Hernandez has the worst overall game, in fact I believe he will now only get better in his 2nd season (we all pray). The Pea is a goal scoring, what else do you want him to do? (Please explain to me?) With his movement and endless run's he allows Rooney to drop back into the freed space as most Defender's were forced to drop back to limit the space behind them Hernadezs could run into! Total agree with the Kiko stuff, he has more to him and is a lot better in the air an Danny and seems ore controlled in the box with any foot. With regards to the defining United class, alot of fans never through Andy Cole was a great footballer and yes in some cases it was a case of miss 2 to score 1 goal but his record speaks for itself in the end. He was a goal scorer and I don't believe Danny is any where near Andy level! I think with Hernadezs movement & speed, he is at times unmarketable add this to his ability in the air for someone so small plus his near say die attitude and work rate he go on to score goal after goal for us. Remember he allows Rooney to play in the space which as we all know suits him. So as United class, I just dont see Danny offering us that. This is why I feel the way i do but as I said as long as Danny plays in a Manchester United shirt I'll support the lad and hopefully for the good of our great club I'm wrong about the boy but only time will tell.
What else do I want him to do? Learn how to control the ball, not lose the ball after losing it between his feet due to his poor ball dribbling skills. Learn how to become more versatile. Or am I asking for too much? Talents like Aguero and Neymar are far Superior to Hernandez or are you going to state otherwise?
Exactly why he is so useful, as he not only scores tons of goals from doing this, but stretches the space between midfield and defence, where Rooney thrives.
Glad to see there's more an just me saying and believing this on here, without the little guy last season I'm sorry but we wouldn't have won the title. (There I've said it)
Nolhman not every forward has these skills. We are talking about real football. Not some FIFA game on a console.
