It used to be any old second hand tat they used to deal in. I'd say they're still several steps up from Cash Converters in terms of image though. And Firthy, does me knowing that mean you're wrong about the youngsters or does it make me one of the old bastards now? EDIT: This thread got me thinking, somewhere on my PC I saved an article one of the former Luton chairmen gave when he took over the club in what is now L1. I'll have to dig it out because it was comical enough reading it at the time thinking he was living in a dream world, but seeing how things panned out you really have to wonder just what he was taking. In a big long list of "well planned" ideas he included getting to the PL with 2 immediate promotions, despite planning to halve the wage bill they had getting promoted from what is now L2, and that was one of the least overly ambitious plans he had.