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Article: So there was no transfer request handed in...? | Football, Newcastle

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Sir_Bobby's_Legacy, Sep 10, 2011.

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  1. Sir_Bobby's_Legacy

    Sir_Bobby's_Legacy New Member

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    Going back to the sale of Andy Carroll, just to reiterate we did not promise to spend all the money from that transfer in the summer. We said that not a penny would be taken out of the club and that is exactly what we have done.

    In relation to Andy, it’s worth addressing the issue that upset fans back in January. Yes, we said repeatedly that Andy Carroll was not for sale. On reflection perhaps we should have chosen our words more carefully. We had no intention of selling Andy Carroll.

    If I can draw an analogy: My house is not for sale. In fact you could offer me twice what it is worth and it would still not be for sale because it has a personal value to me right now that is greater than twice the price. But if someone knocks on my door with a truly extraordinary figure, a sum which I had never imagined would be offered, then there comes a time when I have to seriously consider it.

    The same is true in football. We could not have imagined when we rejected offers for Andy of £25m and £30m that any bid in excess of that would be tabled. And that was our position in January: do we continue stubbornly to refuse to sell at any price, or is the offer now so high that it deserves serious consideration. The fee offered was a deal too good to turn down.

    That’s just one side of the equation of course. On the other side is a player, and one I would add that we have the greatest respect for. He could see an incredibly attractive opportunity for him too. Eventually both the club and the player agreed that a deal would be in the best interests of both parties. Was it ideal that the bid came in on the final day of the window? No, but we stand by our decision that it was in the best interests of the club despite it being too late to bring in a replacement. Without Andy, we still achieved a very credible finishing position in the league.

    So our statements that Andy was not for sale were not disingenuous. We had no intention of selling Andy, not at £25m, nor at £30m. Because we had never anticipated the vast sum eventually tabled then to all intents and purposes he was not for sale.

    If some fans feel the can no longer trust what we say, that’s a shame, but all we can do is continue to tell it as we see it and hope that people will take us at our word.


    No mention of him handing in a transfer request there Derek...? Hmmm.
     
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  2. Arfa's Left Foot

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    That's what I was thinking when I read through that. In January the bid was accepted because Andy Carroll handed in a transfer request... now it's because it was too good to turn down.
     
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  3. Pardews Smile

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    Perhaps he's insinuating it by saying

    "he could see an incredibly attractive opportunity for him too".

    Maybe it wasn't a transfer request, but more of a willingness to leave?

    I don't know though, it wouldn't surprise me either way. . .
     
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  4. Sir_Bobby's_Legacy

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    I know it doesn't really matter a great deal, £35 million for what he's done since we sold him is an unbelievable deal for us, but still, makes you think...
     
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  5. Amnesiac

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    I think it was more willingness to leave than a transfer request.
     
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  6. Amnesiac

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    It's clear to anyone that with us, his heart was in it. At Liverpool he looks so uninterested, doesn't look bothered at all, he doesn't even look half the player he was for us.
     
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  7. Arfa's Left Foot

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    Still means they were lying at the time. Liverpool was an incredible opportunity for Carroll to be fair, but he didn't force the move like they said in January.
     
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  8. Amnesiac

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    We'll never know what happened with that situation though sadly
     
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  9. Arfa's Left Foot

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    The Carroll texts seem the most genuine information we've seen from that day.
     
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  10. The Deluded Pablo Diego Jose Francisco

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    This.

    You know what Kenny's doing when backing Carroll - he trying to justify spending so much money on a player and hoping he'll turn out good, yet, Liverpools starting XI are doing just fine and playing some good stuff and he's nowhere to be seen atm
     
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  11. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    On the contrary I'm glad they've finally come clean on how badly they wanted the money. Many of us knew this but were shouted down when we suggested this was the reason for him leaving. He still tries to dilute it by saying "and he saw a great opportunity". Sorry Derek, we'll take your first answer thanks. I'm glad it finally puts to bed the reason for his departure, they wanted the cash.
     
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  12. Arfa's Left Foot

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    He saw a great opportunity once we convinced him that is definitely what he wants to do.

    I think Carroll never wanted to go, and regrets going.
     
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  13. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Always have thought he was pushed out, I'm just glad they've been decent enough to say "ok hands up we wanted the money and pushed him out the door" About time but better late than never. Not sure where it leaves their staunch backers who take everything they say at face value, claiming Carroll left for money etc etc. Turns out he didn't!
     
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  14. The_Grim_Reaper

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    He's a loose cannon, a ticking time bomb

    He had people willing to take him under their wing here

    Mainly because he needed it, being thick as pig s**t

    He won't get that at Liverpool

    And if rumours of his drinking are to be believed, it'll get worse before better

    And it couldn't have happened a nicer pikey
     
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    The Secret Ingredient Well-Known Member

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    point of article

    Ashley and co. are liars

    outcome

    tell us something we don't know .........nothing to see here move along
     
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  16. Arfa's Left Foot

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    Has it changed the opinion of those who have blamed Carroll though?
     
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  17. The Secret Ingredient

    The Secret Ingredient Well-Known Member

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    maybe maybe not nowt will change till this ****er goes and he won't be going anywhere soon
     
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  18. WayneLikesBlobs

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    well at least they're being honest. if you were playing football manager and liverpool placed a bid of £35m for Carroll would you accept? I WOULD.

    at the end of the day it's sensible business. Carroll could get break his leg and become the next Alan Smith (cannot rule out possibility), then will you ever see that 35m again? no. Carroll had just broken into the first team, played 15odd games at prem level = BAM £35million. yes thankyou!!
     
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  19. Marvo

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    Carroll has admitted he'd put in a transfer request.
    What's been disputed is whether he was 'forced' to do so or not.
     
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  20. NufcBano

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    It seems clear from this that the club couldn't refuse to turn down the Andy Carroll transfer fee, so to create the 'transfer request' controversary they did, for the sake of saving a few bob on bonus money that would have been owed to Carroll due to selling him when he was still under contract, totally crippling his name and reputation amongst 'his own' geordie fans, was and is a total disgrace. Yes he left, but their was no alternative. I knew it at the time and have gone blue in the face trying to explain it to people who think otherwise, and with every quote from all parties involved since, it becomes more and more clear that Andy Carroll doesn't deserve the label of 'Judas' that he has with a large amount of NUFC fans. Which obviously harms any chance of the lad coming back to the club at some point in the future to finish what he started. Which the rest of us NUFC fans, who recognise the shenanigans of the board, are hoping will happen. Shocking!!
     
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