In 2 years, FIFA have gone from declaring that Goal Line Technology was not necessary, to now regarding it as an absolute necessity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18520916 If that wasn't ridiculous enough, Sepp Blatter's groomed successor, Michel Platini still believes that 5 officials [1 on the goal line] is better than implementing the technology. The same goal line official who missed the goal that was undoubtedly scored by Ukraine [wait for it]. In the above article you'll see there is another video where Ref's chief Collina tells us the goal should have stood. Yet, ITV, bless 'em revealed that the clearance, made by John Terry, was unnecessary because of an earlier offside, seen by cameras, leading up to the goal [now you can reply]. This is where screwing about, indecision and talking has got us. Goal Line Technology should have been around for donkey's years, by now, in important tournaments, at least - a simple instant replay machine stuck to a camera on the goal line could have been a first generation model - as the equipment has been around for that time. Now the real debate is going to be, can we trust the officials to make the right decision in moments before a potential goal, that could change the outcome of matches. You can see where this is leading..?
Let's not complain about how long it took to get here, but more embrace the fact that it's finally coming.
Oh, I'm not complaining. I just find it ironic and ridiculous that Goal Line Technology would have proven the goal was good, and that in reality it wasn't. But not for the reasons that a goal line official failed to see. As RLGB says, this one will have legs.
I don't care the reason why they suddenly think it's a necessity, I'm just glad they do think it's a necessity.
The long ball that was played forward before the 'goal' was received by a player who was offside when the ball was played. Wasn't picked up on by the linesman though, so the clearance was still necessary.
Blather and his chums don't like us. After the infamous lampard saga they said that goal line technology is not needed. As soon as the English get a bit luck v Ukraine it's now a necessity. We always lose to penalties .......... Chelsea win v Bayern and now it's ' backenbuear, find an alternative to penalties it's unfair. ' it's just pathetic IMO.
Actually, to be fair to Blatter [Le God knows why I should though] he announced before the 2010 World Cup that Goal Line Technology was not required. He and Platini were of one mind[?], that a 5th official could do the job. After Lampard's goal, Blatter apologised to the English and said that he'd changed his mind. Platini still thinks to this day that a 5th official is all that is needed. Now Blatter believes Goal Line Technology is an absolute necessity. Fine. Let's have 5 officials and Goal Line Technology. Let's have 20 bloody officials covering one game, if you like, but let's have a decision error free game, in a major tournament, at a defining moment, for once.
No it was the long ball from the left back. The main camera did not catch the offside player as it panned, by the time it had reached him he had run back onside again but he should have been flagged. One of the other angles shows that he was a couple of yards off. Anyway, I did start writing about this on the other off topic thread and I really don't want to bang on and bore everyone. But you are right, there is a touch of irony about the incorrect goal line decision causing a goal to be disallowed that was in fact incorrectly ruled onside. But in the refereeing world, two wrongs don't make a right (three if you include the other offside they got wrong two minutes earlier), and the result is that those officials have been swiftly sent home. I am sure that you share my hope TSS that goal line technology in some form will be fully tested and implemented soon. Maybe it could lead to more technology in the future, my only criteria is that it does not affect the actual flow of the game. So blowing the whistle and checking the monitor doesn't qualify, at the moment. But we're getting into well rehearsed debates now.
Yeh it is a funny thought that greater technology would have resulted in the incorrect decision being given yesterday (a Ukraine goal). Still the inaccuracy is still down to human error so minimising it in a simple and quick fashion is a good idea. We have the technology to get instant decisions on goal line when we have it for offsides let's use it aswell (is the technology available now?). There will always be a subjective nature of the rules which requires a ref.
I don't believe much of what Blatter says. I think he just says what makes the most people happy. Goal line could have been in place for years and there have been numerous examples of the need for it. Why now does he change his mind. But the larger question of where it stops applies here. Do we then have a system for helping the lino with offsides? Then do we need one for the foul in the build up to the goal as we hear complained about nearly every week already. Not sure where it stops really. I think a decision error free game is impossible. It would be nice though to get closer than we are currently.
blatter is just worried that his thick brown envelope from poland and ukraine will be a little thinner than he was promised
What I don't get, those 2 extra refs were brought in onto the goal line, alot of wrong decisions were given in the penalty box in the CL and now this. Are they just a bunch of day dreaming idiots?
To be honest you need to experience what is happening and the speed that it happens to understand how an official can make a mistake. I said at the time that the ball was over the line although in truth it was just a guess because it looked in all honesty a good clearance. However in all truth Ukraine could not complain. During a game of football a referee has to make hundreds of instant decisions. Being human he is almost certainly likely to get some wrong. His assistants (lines man) are also there to help him make the correct decisions. These days they are all linked by radio but if you do not know for certain what happened they acknowledge that fact by not giving what is actually blatant to the onlooker. The long ball that was played to the player that thought he scored was offside. You cannot argue that...nor can you argue that England should have had at least one very blatant penalty. Again when you analyse where the referee was you would think he could not miss this fact. My own thoughts were that he evened things up. I thought the referee was a bit officious and certainly was not up to the standard you would expect anyway for this type of tournament.
Yes it's funny how Mr Blatter now insists it is necessary after the English finally benefit from an incorrect decision. However, let's remember that it was an excellent clearance and with the speed it happened it was a very difficult to make a decision (and to award a goal you have to be 100% sure). Whereas our non-goal against Germany could be clearly seen by everyone. As for the off-side decision - just goes to show things even themselves out in the end
I don't remember all this uproar when Lampard scored that 'goal' against Germany......& that really was incredible how it wasn't given. Bet Blatter didn't lose sleep that night.
Strange that it was not necessary when England were robbed of a goal that could have kept them in the World Cup and now absolutely necessary when England's opponents are denied a goal that would have forced a draw, but wouldn't have made any difference to the group standings. mmmmmm
