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Article: Doncaster Premier Yearling Sale | Horse Racing

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    The sale runs 31st August to 1st September and sees 487 yearlings catalogued. Whilst this sale does not generally offer the most fashionable yearlings, it very much has a “type” and the sale often proves a good hunting ground for early two year olds. Occasionally it will throw up a good horse, with the likes of CANFORD CLIFFS, DUTCH ART and PACO BOY among the graduates of the sale. A good rule of thumb would be to pay close attention to anything bought by Peter Doyle at this sale (he buys for Richard Hannon, amongst others!).

    Included in the sale are yearlings by the likes of Authorized, Cape Cross, Dansili, Dubawi, Dutch Art, Invincible Spirit, Mr Greeley, Nayef, Oasis Dream, Pivotal, Shamardal and Zamindar.

    As well as first crop yearlings for Duke of Marmalade, Mount Nelson, New Approach, Papal Bull, Ramonti, Sakhee’s Secret, Sixties Icon, Street Boss and Tamayuz.


    Some lots to look out for include:

    Lot 6 – colt Iffraaj/Zamiyla – dam a winner, from further family of ZARKAVA (the 3rd dam is a half-sister to the grand-dam of Zarkava)
    Lot 22 – colt Oasis Dream/Alexander Alliance – dam Listed winner, half-sister to RUBY ROCKET
    Lot 25 – colt Mount Nelson/Alexia Reveuse – half-brother to DEAUVILLE VISION
    Lot 38 – colt Haafhd/Anna Oleanda – half-brother to multiple Listed winners, grand-dam Ch 2yo & 3yo filly in Germany ANNA PAOLA.
    Lot 52 – colt Kheleyf/Balladonia – half-brother to G1 winner WOOTTON BASSETT
    Lot 55 – colt Royal Applause/Bel Tempo – dam half-sister to G1 winner and sire LE VIE DEI COLORI
    Lot 85 – filly EXCELLENT ART/CAPRIOLE – dam half-sister to dam of G1 winner HIBAAYEB, further family of OH SO SHARP
    Lot 98 – colt Medicean/Choir Gallery – dam unraced sister to G1 winner CHORIST
    Lot 99 – colt Bahamian Bounty/Choysia – dam half-sister to G2 winner WINKER WATSON
    Lot 105 – colt Excellent Art/Coral Strand – dam from immediate family of ISLINGTON, MOUNTAIN HIGH, etc
    Lot 118 – colt Zamindar/Dalannda – dam half-sister to G1 winner DALIAPOUR, from family of DARSHAAN, DAR RE MI, REWILDING, etc
    Lot 159 – colt Manduro/Felucca – half-brother to LATEEN SAILS, further family of AL BAHATHRI
    Lot 165 – filly Monsieur Bond/Forever Bond – full-sister to G3 winner LADIES ARE FOREVER
    Lot 173 – filly Oratorio/Gilded Edge – dam half-sister to dam of up and coming sire DUTCH ART
    Lot 174 – colt Kyllachy/Gleam of Light – full brother to G2 winner ARABIAN GLEAM
    Lot 177 – colt Haatef/Gold Script – half-brother to G1 placed HONOURS LIST
    Lot 189 – filly Sakhee’s Secret/Harryana – half-sister to G2 winner TEMPLE MEADS
    Lot 207 – filly Kheleyf/Island Race – half-sister to G1 winner SOLDIER HOLLOW
    Lot 215 – colt Dansili/Jewel in the Sand – dam G2 winner
    Lot 231 – filly Mount Nelson/Lacework – half-sister to MISS WORK OF ART
    Lot 244 – filly Diamond Green/Lominda – half-sister to G1 winner FAYR JAG
    Lot 256 – filly Ishiguru/Maid for Running – the pedigree is nothing to write home about, but it is worth pointing out that this filly is BORN TO RUN, the star of the Racing Post’s foal to racehorse feature
    Lot 259 – filly Nayef/Mail the Desert – dam G1 winner
    Lot 285 – colt Dutch Art/Mystic Love – very closely related to G1 winner and sire MEDICEAN (dam is a half-sister to MEDICEAN who in turn is the sire of DUTCH ART)
    Lot 317 – colt Exceed and Excel/Papabile – dam full-sister to G1 winner and sire GRAND LODGE
    Lot 339 – filly Kyllachy/Poppets Sweetlove – dam half-sister to OVERDOSE
    Lot 342 – colt Lucky Story/Practicallyperfect – dam half-sister to G1 winner ART CONNOISSEUR
    Lot 358 – colt Duke of Marmalade/Rambler – dam half-sister to CASSANDRA GO (G2 winner and dam of G1 winner HALFWAY TO HEAVEN) and VERGLAS
    Lot 374 – colt Oasis Drea,/Ronaldsay – first foal, dam tough and consistent Listed winner
    Lot 387 – colt Holy Roman Emperor/Samorra – dam half-sister to G1 winner ZAHRAT DUBAI
    Lot 427 – filly Street Boss/Strike Hard – dam G3 winner
    Lot 465 – colt Red Clubs/Unfortunate – half-brother to G2 winner LOOK BUSY
    Lot 469 – colt New Approach/Velvet Appeal – dam full-sister to G1 winner SAPIEHA
    Lot 473 – filly Duke of Marmalade/Vingt Et Une – dam full-sister to G1 winner JOHANN QUATZ and half-sister to G1 winner and sire HERNANDO
    Lot 484 – colt Kyllachy/Woodbeck – half-brother to POLAR BEN and FRANKLINS GARDENS
    Lot 487 – colt Exceed and Excel/Wunders Dream – dam G2 winner


    The catalogue can be viewed in full here: http://www.dbsauctions.com/pdf/dbs/220/catalogue.pdf
     
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    PN, interesting as usual

    I have a question in regards on of the first season sires - Sakhee's Secret

    Do you have any data as to how many mares he visited for this crop and have you heard anything about him in regards his stallion duties?

    I will be watching on with interest when Lot 189 – filly Sakhee’s Secret/Harryana – half-sister to G2 winner TEMPLE MEADS goes through the ring, any estimate from yourself?
     
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    Sakhee's Secret attracted 118 mares in his first season (£6,500) and then 70 in his second (£6,500), this year he has covered around 50 (£5,500).

    As far as estimates go, and a lot depends on the individual, I would guess at about the £25k mark. Temple Meads himself made £16k and as he has not raced yet this year it is hard to put an accurate estimate on his sister. Certainly she will have residual broodmare value if nothing else.
     
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    Cheers PN,

    That brings me onto another question (I hope you don't mind)

    Do sires normally peak first year with high numbers of mares and then go down until the first crop reach the racecourse? (so will we see less Dark Angels for the next two years and then more after that)
     
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    Nass, yes unfortunately that is how fashion works within the breeding industry. Stallions are popular in their first year at stud as their race records are fresh in everyone's memory. However by the time the next season comes around the next "new kid on the block" has arrived. By the time the horse reaches his third season, which is usually the make or break point for a stallion he still has no progeny on the racecourse and it has been 2 years since he last raced.

    Using DARK ANGEL, as you suggested:

    2008 (current two year olds) - 124 mares covered
    2009 (current yearlings) - 82 mares covered
    2010 (current foals) - 69 mares covered

    The very good racehorses do not tend to suffer quite so dramatically: I would imagine SEA THE STARS book will hold up well numbers wise.

    The stallions with the major players, Darley & Coolmore, will never see a big drop in numbers in their first few years as they have enough of their own mares to keep the books artificially high.

    Sadly my boy HAAFHD has suffered a similar fate and things do not look to be improving for him as, although he has a good winners:runners ratio of about 50% he has not sired an outstanding individual yet:

    2005: 78 mares
    2006: 43 mares
    2007: 110 mares
    2008: 109 mares
    2009: 69 mares
    2010: 26 mares
     
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    Top lot so far Lot 32, and Oasis Dream filly, makes £85,000.

    Of my selected lots to sell so far:

    Lot 6 – colt Iffraaj/Zamiyla – £16,000
    Lot 22 – colt Oasis Dream/Alexander Alliance - £65,000
    Lot 25 – colt Mount Nelson/Alexia Reveuse - £55,000
    Lot 38 – colt Haafhd/Anna Oleanda – £36,000
    Lot 52 – colt Kheleyf/Balladonia – £80,000
    Lot 55 – colt Royal Applause/Bel Tempo – not sold @ £25,000
    Lot 85 – filly Excellent Art/Capriole – £20,000
    Lot 98 – colt Medicean/Choir Gallery – £22,000
    Lot 99 – colt Bahamian Bounty/Choysia – £22,000
    Lot 105 – colt Excellent Art/Coral Strand – not sold @ £14,000
    Lot 118 – colt Zamindar/Dalannda – not sold @ £9,000
     
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    Not sure if anyone is still reading this, but I’ll keep going with the updates!

    Yesterday’s first session saw a strong sale with an impressive 85% clearance rate (meaning 85% of horses offered for sale were sold).

    The sale was topped by Lot 165, a full-sister to HOOF IT and LADIES ARE FOREVER. The filly made £147,000 and it later transpired that her part-owner Reg Bond had bought out the other part-owners on behalf of a syndicate which will race her.

    The other top lots were:

    224 Acclamation/Kerlyka – McKeever Bloodstock £105,000
    32 Oasis Dream/Alsharq – Gill Richardson Bloodstock £85,000
    174 Kyllacchy/Gleam of Light – Richard Frisby Bloodstock £85,000
    52 Kheleyf/Balladonia – Blandford Bloodstock £80,000
    173 Oratorio/Gilded Edge – Aiden O’Ryan £80,000
    209 Kyllachy/Ivania – Peter & Ross Doyle Bloodstock £80,000

    Peter & Ross Doyle, who usually buy on behalf of Richard Hannon, signed for 17 yearlings yesterday.

    Today’s sale session has already got underway and can be watched live here: http://www.dbsauctions.com/catalogue_sale_day.aspx?saleId=220&saletype=Yearling

    The main lot to note, for interest if nothing else is Lot 256 – the Racing Post’s “star” BORN TO RUN. She will be selling in the next 15-30 minutes as they are already up to lot 250. Whoever buys her, and she has had a decent number of viewings by all accounts, will get plenty of free publicity as the Racing Post are sure to be keen to follow her progress over the coming years.
     
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    what price did the one I noted up go for?

    Always a pleasure reading this sort of thread. Good to get a handle on the market.
     
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    189 made £23,000 bought by Whitsbury Manor Stud, who stand Sakhee's Secret. SS had a good day, all 9 of his yearlings offered found homes for an average of £17,000. Not bad when you consider his stud fee was £6,500 for the season in which these horses were conceived.

    256 in the ring now.
     
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    She makes £20,000, though I didn't catch who bought her. Bang on the estimate from David Redvers who said he expected her to make £16-£20k.
     
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    Princess, I was wondering if anyone had ever done a study covering a period of a decade or so, to see whether the total outlay on yearlings brought, was matched by prize money returns? Is the sale of horse flesh to the general public merely a way of subsidising the breeders of the racing industry?
     
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    Cyclonic, I'm not aware of any such studies, but you are right in that it would be interesting to see what they came up with.

    I'm not sure that I would describe sales as subsidies to the breeders, after all they provide the raw product for racing, but the fact also remains that most yearlings sold will barely cover their costs. It takes 2 years to get a viable horse to the yearling sales, starting when the horse is conceived. Over those two years the breeder will probably pay out around £20k in keep fees, feed, insurance, vet bills etc and on top of that comes the stud fee.
     
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    Yeah it seems to be a hard old game for the "boutique" breeder. Thanks for the reply mate. <ok>
     
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    Hi PN..just back from the Ale House and watched Andy Murray,no I'm not gay..but...He's British!!

    PN..noticed HRE sired Baminpire,was he expected to have influence at 12f and how you do predict he will be calibrated as a sire.Was Oasis Dream ever expected to have such a varied array of offspring,trip wise,regardless of his book of mares.

    Also,still can't believe Cape Blaanco stays 12f given his distaff line...how would a breeder predict that,or is purely trial and error.Would they be content with a miler,or the dreaded top class 7f performer, at the covering stage.

    One more PN,Sorry!..but I notive Halland Park Lass,who was urtterly useless as a racer,is an impressive mare without such a really inspiring pedigree.How so?

    Thanks,

    Dexdter Carstairs.
     
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    Ah right Ted!...isolated the lineage of halland park lass...it's all becoming clear now..just ignore me PN...!
     
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    One last poser PN..how is Amadeus Wolfe doing at stud...one of his co owners,Dr Brendan McDonald used to to be a speaker for me when I worked in P.C.G.I. pharma.

    Possibly even more objectionable than Nicky Hendershole.....<run>...
     
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    Hi Dexter, sorry for the delay in replying but I still have no internet access at home &#8211; flippin BT!

    Anyway, in answer to your questions: it is always nigh on impossible to tell what kind of influence a given stallion will have at stud. You are right that it is unusual for a stallion to sire winners of such a wide-range of distances like OASIS DREAM.

    You can&#8217;t really predict how far a horse will stay based on pedigree alone, though you would hope that the parent&#8217;s abilities would give you some clue. If you use an established stallion you will have an idea of the type of horse he is likely to throw, but a lot of it is just trial and error.

    As for AMADEUS WOLF he has had a decent start to his stud career with 11 winners from 45 runners, he currently lies 7th in the first season sires table in terms of prize money won, though he is 5th in terms of the number of individual winners.
     
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