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Arshavin ??? Why ???

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by theHotHead, Dec 19, 2011.

  1. theHotHead

    theHotHead New Member

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    Arshavin has deteriorated into one of the worst footballers I have seen at Arsenal.

    I can understand why Wenger plays him, in the hope that he will re-discover how to play football, he doesn't want to completely drop Arsenal's record signing.

    HOWEVER - what message is that sending out to those behind him in the pecking order ? If they are being overlooked for starts or substitute appearances how must that make them feel ? Will they be saying to themselves "am I worse than a currently abysmal Arshavin ?"

    Will they question their future at the club ? Managers need to have cahoonas to succeed, they need to be ruthless too. AVB dropped Torres which has resulted in a mini change in their fortunes and Drogba scoring goals.

    Arshavin shouldn't be let anywhere near our first team to be honest, lets give someone else a chance.
     
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  2. Wenger's Optician

    Wenger's Optician Active Member

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    I agree. Wenger doesn't start Chamberlain because defensively he's not up to scratch, which makes perfect sense. But if you're bringing on Arshavin as a sub, you know he's going to offer nothing defensively so it would make more sense bringing on Chamberlain, who, at the moment looks a lot more dangerous offensively.
     
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  3. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    possibly the worst ' exciting to abysmal ' from an Arsenal player that I can remember.

    It has to be that he wants out and is making sure.......
     
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  4. Mantis

    Mantis Well-Known Member

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    He is not getting enough starts, and when he is played, he is played out of position. I wouldn't blame him for being unhappy and feel he should just rather leave now. Highly disappointed.
     
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  5. Grizzly

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    He displays the body language of a player who just doesn't want to be at the club, and I'm afraid when you have one of them the best thing to do is find him a way out.
    I didn't know too much about the player before he came to be honest but I think on the whole he's been disappointing.

    As for one of the worst players you've seen at Arsenal you should just count yourself fortunate you weren't around 30 years ago...
     
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  6. robin_van_ fiberglass

    robin_van_ fiberglass Active Member

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    I really hope we replace him with someone good in January. Same with Chamakh too as Park is never used.
     
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  7. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Arshavin looks like he already has one foot out of the door. His body language has always been a bit lazy looking, but he would always come up with the goods, so we forgave the lazy aspect to his game. Now however, he's not really producing anything and looks totally average. If we get any offers over £8m for him in January, I think we should be biting their hand off.
     
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  8. theHotHead

    theHotHead New Member

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    I mean he looks like an amateur, nothing he does comes off, simple passes he cannot make, he looks proper pap !

    He HAS had plenty of starts, all of last season for example, and he was pap then too. Not having starts shouldn't affect your ability to make simple passes, the man trains everyday.

    Torres might not be scoring but at least he can pass the ball.
     
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  9. cjuliennech1

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    I don't think anyone can understand why arshavin gets a game, he clearly doesn't want to be there so i would sell him as soon as possible, any money we can get for him would be a bonus.
     
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  10. TheBear

    TheBear Well-Known Member

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    I was going to write and article about this myself...


    Firstly Arshavin is the biggest waiste of talent I've ever seen.
    He has the technical ability and physical qualities to be an absolute 'World beater'.

    As a player he is incredibly lazy on the pitch and always has been. If you compare Arshavin and say Tevez both are simular builds, both are somewhat arrogant and Arshavin is at least as technically skilled (possibly more) but what seperates them and makes Tevez a world class player is that he is a 'fighter'.(may be a cliche but its true) Wether or not you like Carlos Tevez you have to admire the way he always gives 100% on the pitch.

    Arshavin has been a huge star in Russia for quite a few years and generally puts in a decent performance for his national side. He at leasts looks semi-motivated when he plays for them.

    There's only been a handful of occassions where I've seen Arshavin look aggressive, motivated & determined while playing for Arsenal.


    At the moment he looks like he really does'nt give a ****. Wenger needs to get rid of him.
     
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  11. TheBear

    TheBear Well-Known Member

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    True but that does'nt excuse the laziness. If he was any more lethargic the guy would be asleep.

    Tevez, Rooney, Eto'o, David Villa etc.. all get 'played out wide' and still put in top performances.

    Henry scored 33 goals from that position at Barca.
     
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  12. english~players~dont~dive

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    He should have left in summer, and its only this season slowly people have realised he is a bit of a fraud.

    No suprise the 'played out position' line is used to defend him, he'd be useless anywhere. Just like Samir Nasri, whether wide or central you get a good idea of a players limitations.

    ive said enough on the wee man, sell him in jan, and get some other winger in.
     
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  13. robin_van_ fiberglass

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    With the amount of basic mistakes he makes at the moment I would be more comfortable building the team around Chamakh. At least he puts some effort in when he doesn't play well.
     
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  14. shaxi

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    i don't think he will have more chance to appear in the match field if he continue to play in that way !

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  15. theHotHead

    theHotHead New Member

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    Totally agree. He'll make a mistake and just grin annoyingly rather than bust a gut to make amends. I am sick of the sight of him.

    He is preventing OXO and Ryu from getting starts out wide - he is absolutely no use whatsoever so why play him !!
     
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  16. Grizzly

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    I'm no fan of his but AW has said the problem with Arshavin and Chamakh is confidence.
    Both are talented footballers, both have proved in the past they're good enough for this level, both are struggling massively and the only way to get over that is get some playing time, it's the damage that's caused whilst they rediscover form that hurts and more than once Arshavin found himself in a good position in space on Sunday only to waste possession.
    Time has run out I think and it's time for them both to go (asuming someone will take them)
     
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  17. theHotHead

    theHotHead New Member

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    We have a problem then.

    Usually players who are dropped work twice as hard to get back in the team and they all know that when they are given their chance they MUST take it. If a player has such fragile confidence then .. maybe they shouldn't be at a top club where competition is fierce. We need players who can play in a squad and come in and do a job. We can't afford to have fragile players who need time to get their confidence going, there is a lot at stake in modern football, snooze and you lose. We've carried dead weight for far too long, too many of our players simply don't cut it. Time we trimmed our squad and allow the newbies to grow and flourish.
     
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  18. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    thats just great - we play them for about 10 games (and lose them) so they can get some confidence back.
     
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