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Are we being too soft on Suarez

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by ncfcwonky, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. ncfcwonky

    ncfcwonky New Member

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    Time and time again Suarez has cheated and appears to have gotten away with it.

    ESN have apologised for Jon Champion's comments regarding Suarez - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...rimand-Jon-Champions-over-cheat-comments.html - even though most people would agree with him.

    It's also no surprise that Alan Hansen is excusing him - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...his-job-and-acting-like-any-other-player.html

    Although I agree with Hansen that you can't expect players to tell referees of similar incidents, particularly when they're deliberate. I have found this in less than 5 minutes on google - http://www.totalprosports.com/2012/...o-referee-gets-his-own-goal-disallowed-video/

    A player is more likely to tell a ref if its an accident, but you still can't expect them to tell the ref.
     
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  2. redruthyella

    redruthyella Active Member

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    Suarez has certainly left himself wide open to criticism and condemnation because of early incidents but I do believe Sunday's episode has been blown completely out of proportion. I think by the way he "belted" the ball into the net, he fully expected it to be ruled out.
    It would be ideal to take each incident on its merits and in each case the punishment suit the crime. However, if someone infringes often enough, then the punishment must get sterner. But is a succession of minor incidents worth the same as a major one. He certainly got full value for the Evra incident so could be said to have served his punishment and the slate is clean. So his diving should be taken as a different matter to his graver crimes.
    I know it would never happen but I would like to see a system of "licensing" similar to driving, and if you go over the limit then your license is withdrawn for a period or completely.
     
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  3. Fatter than Fleck

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    Holty has tweeted that he would do the same. And how many cricketers "walk" if they know they have edged a catch? Winning is more important in a professional age. Individual sports (Golf, Tennis, Snooker) have kept their integrity but team sports have not. Is Saurez's offence any worse than Lopez's theatrical roling around that got Ameoli sent off?
     
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  4. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    its a very tough call.

    do i think it would have changed suarez's image and done him the world of good had he just admitted it?

    absolutely yes.

    do i think suarez should have owned up to it?

    no.

    referee ****ed up. only about 1% of players would have admitted it which is a shame but that's the way of the football world. win at all costs. what i found most embarrassing in all this is that nobody has mentioned how much trouble liverpool, who played a very strong lineup, struggled massively to beat a mid table non-league side! maybe we should focus on that a bit more and give credit to mansfield. i also thought what they did by leaving 96 (named) seats inside the ground was wonderful. shame that some of the liverpool fans ruined it with some disgraceful chanting...

    as for suarez: controversy follows the guy around for a reason. he's a bad egg but a hell of a player
     
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  5. Bath-Canary

    Bath-Canary Well-Known Member

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    This whole issue would be solved with a video review. Takes 30 seconds and the goal is disallowed an Suarez gets a yellow. Easy.
    On the diving front I think they should start reviewing them after the match with a panel that has a referee and a former player (like the ex driver steward in formula 1) who review incidents and give bans. 1 game for a freekick won and 3 for a penalty. Diving isn't just breaking the rules it's straight up cheating. It needs stamping out.
     
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  6. ncfcwonky

    ncfcwonky New Member

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    Supers, I had no idea about this 96 seat tribute, which is a fantastic idea! Shame it was overshadowed by the Suarez incident.
     
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  7. Fatter than Fleck

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    And remember Henry's blatant handball for France that knocked Ireland out of the World Cup.
     
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  8. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    I don't blame Suarez so much for the actual handball as that was purely instinctive, I don't blame him not owning up to it as that's the job of the officials as had been said, but what rankled with me the most was the way he ran to the fans kissing his arm - the very arm he'd just used to score a goal - which stank of taking the piss if you ask me.

    I actually think he gets a bit of a hard deal over the diving as I've seen him on many occasions try his best to stay on his feet when he could easily stay down, however I do think he's generally a nasty piece of work on the pitch and like has already been said this incident would have been a perfect opportunity for him to promote himself as a good egg and improve his image, especially in a game that Liverpool were likely to have gone on and win comfortably.
     
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  9. Walsh.i.am

    Walsh.i.am Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    One thing I do know. Mansfield Town made a hell of a lot more friends on Sunday than Liverpool did <ok>
     
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  10. Bath-Canary

    Bath-Canary Well-Known Member

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    Actually Tony I agree with you he has stayed on his feet more recently but only because he has such a reputation he would never get the penalty.
    If anything it proof that sanctions against diving work.
     
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  11. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    in defence of suarez's celebration, he does that same celebration after EVERY goal. its merely coincidence and i bet he wasn't thinking 'this'll wind people up even more'...
     
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    ncfcwonky New Member

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  13. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    anyone remember di canio catching the ball instead of scoring when a player was down injured?

    i think it's fair to say that di canio was far from being a loved footballer before that incident yet that changed peoples opinions overnight.

    missed opportunity for suarez to earn a massive reprieve.
     
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  14. ncfcwonky

    ncfcwonky New Member

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    Yes, it's a bit like Holt kissing his arm when scoring a goal.
     
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    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    I do remember that, and you're right, it changed people's opinion of him overnight, but I will never ever forget him pushing the ref over! It was a very serious incident, but I couldn't help myself! I laughed like a drain!

    <laugh>
     
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  16. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    What was Suarez meant to do? Deliberately miss! Its the officials that should be criticised for their rank incompetence for not spotting it in the first place! As kids you are constantly being told to play to the whistle so I can't see what all the fuss is about! It's football it happens!
     
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  17. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    paul alcock if i remember correctly. went down like a sack of spuds! looked like a dive to me...
     
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  18. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    Ah, that'll be in then - my bad!
     
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    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    He didn't go down like a sack of spuds he went down in delayed installments! <laugh>
     
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  20. redruthyella

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    Trouble with Di Canio is he isn't consistent. Not long after he is so sporting as Paul Gerrard goes down with a knee injury which makes him a philanthropist, he is Nazi saluting and telling the world he is not a racist, he is a fascist which makes him a misanthrope.
     
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