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Apology accepted ......Well by me anyway.....

Discussion in 'Cardiff City' started by blueturk the cat, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. blueturk the cat

    blueturk the cat Well-Known Member

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25582598


    But there's just one thing, I need a new coat !
    Well that's what normally happens when I have to say sorry to Mrs Turk (Even though I was in the right all along)
    So now you've said sorry it's going to cost you, but don't worry I'm sure you can get us a bargain or two in the January sales .....

    To be continued ......
     
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  2. hampshire Blue

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    It's a start in the rebuilding bridges exercise, but I would like to hear something similar from Tan.

    Oh well, you can't have everything.
     
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  3. SBFF

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    Tan might keep well out of it now, whenever he makes a statement it never comes out right, best let Dalman do the talking off the pitch and Ole on it.
     
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  4. Oldsparkey

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    A lesson learned we hope. Look for another gesture from Tan to pour some oil on troubled waters.

    We've had the £1M a year pledge for local organisations, and the decision to cancel the interest accrued of the first £50M of his loans to the club.

    The acquisition of a "popular" manager who would be seen as much of a fan's choice as well as for his ability is a good start - other prospective candidates like Sven or that Turkish fella as manager would not have been received well by most.

    What else would you advise him to do? Changing the colours back would be massive, but would he go that far without being seen to lose face?
     
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  5. Stevoldinho

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    I don't even think it's about losing face, I just think he really wants us to play in red. Partly due to perceived financial reasons and partly down to his own preference/belief.

    I think he should sink into the shadows for a bit and let dalman and Ole sort things out.
    He's taken a kicking recently, personally I think he was booing the ref with his 5 minutes of extra time (that's why I booed at the end). I also saw the blue jumper as a bit of an olive branch. The tan haters will call me naïve but I don't think he's the root of all evil. I'd love Dalman to break cover on what MM did wrong in the breakdown in relationship. I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe it wasn't MM who leaked the email, he was the only one with anything to gain by doing so.
     
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    Like I said Stevo - changing the colours back would be massive, but it would change the focus of the majority of the dissent being heaped upon him.

    I honestly believe that the vocal hate against him is heard disproportionately to the more silent supporters of what he is attempting to do for the club.

    Going back to blue and also changing the club badge to a fans choice design would blow his detractors out of the water.
     
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  7. Stevoldinho

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    Agree with that 100%
     
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  8. taffthefish

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    Have to agree with Stevo about the booing, the ref was pants. I also believe Malky did more to get himself the boot than Tans threat to sack him. I believe Tan asked him to step down instead of Tan having to sack him, does it really matter if it was in an email or face to face? When Tan back-tracked Malky kept on making ill advised comments in the press.
    Tan will not change the kit back to blue, of that I am as certain as I can be, the bloody awful badge, well maybe we can petition him to change it as a compromise...
     
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  9. blueturk the cat

    blueturk the cat Well-Known Member

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    Just changing the badge back would be a giant step , even swapping the bluebird's prime spot with the dragon would still be a hefty consolation
     
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  10. SBFF

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    This ^^

    If the bluebird was prominent anywhere on the shirt, how much would it take to put one under the Malaysia wording, it would go a long way, but obviously not everyone would be happy about it.
     
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    cardiff-city-home-shirt-2013-14 redone.jpg clic to enlarge

    Something like this maybe
     
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  12. jck200

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    That is too big and should be around the base of the sleeve maybe in a double circle, there is a limit to forcing a logo onto a shirt. As I said this is football not a fashion show and this is history for our children and their children many as they grow older will see all the protest as a way of the older generation unable to move with the times. This happens with music the young like today and the older ones hate. We forget when we were young our parents hated our new music and clothes.

    Enjoy what we have, wear blue shirts shout for the Bluebirds and remember the years of lower league relegations compared to the bright new future in the premiership.

    We can all make sacrifices for our children lets make this one and show them a united club.

    jck
     
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  13. snlk/poksnbn

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    I think any small concession would be greatly appreciated lads but this is a man who is clearly used to being fawned over due to his wealth and power. This is about respect for our clubs identity.
     
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  14. SBFF

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    Steady on, it was just something I knocked up quick so as to see, of course there are other places it can be put and on a smaller level, but it's not a bad idea considering how small it is on the badge.
     
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    I've been impressed by Dalman, but worried by some of his comments as to what was in place before. He speaks of the management controls now in place to manage budgets. How the hell was the club being run before? I agree that MM forced Tan's hand at the end as he saw no way back. We may never know the root cause, but how Lim has come out of this unscathed I don't know. He allowed MM to overspend, apparently with no control.

    In my employment I've been responsible for multi-million pound annual budgets (£3.1M in 2013). I have monthly financial reviews with my FD and get my arse kicked if I'm not on top of the financials. If I was 50% over budget I'd be sacked. If my FD reported 50% overbudget at year end he'd be sacked as well. It's his job to manage forecast and trends. If risk to budget isn't flagged early, that is negligence. A 50% overspend shouldn't come as a surprise, it should be flagged months out to allow remedial action.
     
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    You do indeed have to ask yourself how the hell has Tan's right hand man come away unscathed with all that has gone on Remote.
     
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  17. SBFF

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    So the question is why wasn't Lim sacked?

    What reasons could he have put forward that put him in the clear and Moody and MM in the firing line.
    Was Moody actually allowed to sign off on these players, doesn't seem credible in a normal setup, but we don't have a normal setup, perhaps too much control was given to the "football man" or else Lim shouldn't be here, I can't imagine someone like Tan being overly sympathetic when it comes to his money.
     
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  18. Stevoldinho

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    Lim was whisked on the way pretty quickly when the moody situation kicked off and doesn't seem to be involved in too much since.

    If Tan has a close relationship with Lim then publicly sacking and blaming him will not have been an attractive option. I'm sure Moody and Malky were blamed for the overspend but I'm not sure Lim has got away as easily as is suggested either. Just because Tan hasn't splattered that all over the press Moody style doesn't mean he hasn't taken his own action against him.
     
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  19. jck200

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    This is what happens when you put all your trust in the manager, it was known that spending had been far more than expected but Tan`s comment on tv was "We have spent at lot, let`s hope Malky is right"

    So Malky got 100% control on the spending and when he asked for £8 million for Cornelious he got it.

    I would add here Tan is a billionaire so £3 million budget for a small company would hardly be pocket money to him.

    The less money you have the more careful you have to be.

    Tan could have said no to Malky he never so he gets the blame not Malky.


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  20. ccfcremotesupport

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    The £3M I was managing was a single project within a large organisation. It still has to be got right. The controls are there for a reason. It appears MM had a £35M budget but Lim had no oversight. That is negligent. You don't become a $ billionaire by NOT worrying about the odd couple million here or there. If MM overspent by £15m, that's $25m or one fortieth of Tan's wealth. I'm sure I would be a litlle pissed off if I lost a fortieth of my wealth, albeit a paltry sum by comparison.
     
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