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Anyinsah Released

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  1. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

    SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious Well-Known Member

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    Those busy bodies at the NewsShopper have dug deep and hard to find out that Joe Anyinsah has been released- via his twitter page.

    Not too surprised, but very sorry for him. On his day he is clearly Championship quality, but injuries just seem to be going against him.

    Best of luck to him. Would have loved him to stay on a pay as you play deal, but alas that will not be the case.
     
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  2. Belvedere to Charlton and back again!

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    If he had of stayed fit and injury free he would of been a great player for us. Its a shame as when he was fit a playing he was a real threat for opposition defences.

    This leaves us with BWP and Benno surely they must be looking at getting some strikers in aswell as all the other positions needed.
     
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  3. WWOCB

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    Probably the most complete striker at the club - pacy, strong and has a good finish, real shame that he's so injury prone.

    To be honest, pay-as-you-play deals aren't that popular in this League it seems, I guess because players would just prefer the security of a fixed salary. Its alright for players like Michael Owen who could retire and for the next 100 years live off what they've earned in their career, but in this League players live (admittedly very comfortably) off of their wages.
     
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  4. Tewkesbury Addick

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    This is a real shame - we knew how bad his injury record was when we signed him, so I suppose that it's not that surprising that he spent a lot of his time with us on the sidelines, but lawdy when he played he looked class. Always a handful, beautiful holding up skills, good target man and a 100% tryer. Pay-per-game would have been ideal but you're right, WeWant, you've gotta be pretty well minted in the first place to make it work.

    Good luck to him, wherever he ends up.
     
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  5. Eastbourne Addick

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    Shame definitely has talent however seems to just keep getting injured. Good luck to him wherever he ends up just hopefully not against us
     
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    class player but too many visits to physio
     
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  7. Dick Van Dykes Disco Dungarees

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    Anyone think that if we are releasing injuryprone players then Youga could be next ??
     
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  8. WWOCB

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    Dick Van...I doubt it to be honest. This is more like a 'Leon McKenzie' situation, where we signed him, knowing he was injury prone but hoping he could get match-fit, he didn't, so hasn't earned a contract. Youga on the other hand joined us at a young age, made a heap of appearances for us then got a serious injury (made worse by piss-poor incompetency from the medical staff).
     
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  9. Dick Van Dykes Disco Dungarees

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    Is Youga one of the highest earners ?

    That might affect any decision
     
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  10. WWOCB

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    Yeah I think Youga, Semedo and Racon are all on about 6-8k. I just can't see (or maybe don't want to see) the club release Youga halfway through his injury (an injury which if rumours are to be believed, was made a hell of a lot worse by the club).
     
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  11. MartinhoCAFC

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    sad news, another of our flair players released

    this leaves us with only Racon able to pass the ball other than sideways and even then his future is up in the air. There's BWP too but he's a finisher, the midfield is beginning to look desperate, I only hope Powell and the new owners have a plan up there sleeves to bring some decent players in, not lower division journeymen
     
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  12. Franco5

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    Anyone who believes the club should invest any further in Kelly Youga are imo totally insane!!

    Sadly injury is part and parcel of football. Youga has been out injured for 18 odd months on between 6k and 8k per week. I make that between 460k and 620k he's been paid (depending on what exactly his weekly wage is) whilst not so much as kicking a ball in anger for us.

    Do you not think he has been give ample opportunity to prove his fitness? I certainly do!! Imo we owe Kelly Youga absolutely nothing!!

    Afterall, put yourself in his shoes... what would your employer do if you were unable to perform your duties through injury for in excess of a year and a half? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't reman on your full salary that's for sure!!

    Yes he was a decent LB for us, but some of you boys are banging on as if he was Paulo Maldini. The cold hard facts point to him being finished. So lets bid him farewell and move on. Who knows, we could even look to bring in a LB who actually makes it onto the pitch once in a while.
     
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  13. WWOCB

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    Its not as simple as that though, Youga was injured whilst playing for us, fair enough, that does happen in football, but if he had not been forced to begin training before he was ready to do so, and was told that the pain he was feeling was psychological, then he would probably have been back playing a while ago. Through sheer incompetence his injury was made far worse, and theres the possibility of him having to retire.

    If you fell over at work and broke your leg, then was told 'You broken leg is healed, the pain is all in your head, now get back to work', before then falling over on the leg and increasing the damage already done, you would be hunting them down for compensation. If they were to then end your contract you'd feel even worse.

    The club are lucky Kelly hasn't sued them for damages. If they were to then release a player due to injury (an injury made far worse by themselves), then that would just be disgusting.
     
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  14. Franco5

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    I hear what you're saying WWOCB but i don't buy it and quite frankly i don't really care!!

    If Youga feels he has a case against us for negligence let him do what he feels he needs to do.

    If i was Youga and my knee was still hurting nobody, not even the queen could make me play on until i felt ready to do so.

    The onus is on the player to be certain that they're ready to return. Maybe he never made himself clear in terms of pain or maybe he was a little over eager to get back playing.

    Either way it's all water under the bridge. The facts are:

    * He has not played for 18 months.
    * He has been paid between 450k and 620k whilst injured.
    * His contract has expired.

    In my humble opinion we should move on as our contractural obligations to Kelly Youga have ceased.

    Direct question... What would you do where he's concerned?
     
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  15. Dick Van Dykes Disco Dungarees

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    obviously we are not obliged to do this but could we give him a "pay-as-you-play" contract as an incentive

    I can see both sides of this

    we'd certainly get some stick if we just chucked him out but then again he isn't under contract so if the shoe was on the other foot and he was fit then he might have run his contract down and left us anyway

    tough one really as your heart says "do the right thing and give him a new (reduced) contract"
    ... but your head says "we've wasted too much money - goodbye and farewell"

    Head wins as as we have no clue as to when he'll return why would we continue to pay him if we are not obliged to
     
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  16. WWOCB

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    I get what your saying, but I feel it would be very harsh to release him halfway through a season. Nobody will buy him because a) he's injured and b) nobodys seen him play for 18 months, he's only 25 years old and could be forced to retire if we release him. What happens then? He's too young to coach and hasn't earned enough to live off, he'll be forced into some dead-end job in France working in a bargain-booze retailer :p

    Seriously though, in answer to your question, I'd offer him a 2k a week contract, which will double if/when he's back playing. Means he's getting paid enough to live off, whilst also having some motivation to make a comeback.
     
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    We are not his parents giving him an allowance

    If he doesn't play again then he'll get an insurance payout .. we won't if he isn't under contract
    If he is only fit from Dec or Jan 2012 then he'll get a trial and join someone else

    We are not releasing him from any type of contract as he doesn't have one with us
    I'm sure he can continue his rehab at Charlton but he just won't be getting paid

    Life's tough sometimes but we haven't got the money to pay someone £8K a month for 6 months just in case he will be fit one day .....

    (yep I know this contradicts what I previously put but I'm in agreement with Franco on this one)
     
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  18. houndal

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    WWOCB,

    Wake up to the harsh realities of life.
    100% with Franco on this.
    I know we appear to be a charity - like emplying Parky - but lifes a bitch.
     
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  19. Franco5

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    Don't get me wrong WWOCB, i think it's a terrible same that we've lost a decent full back and that the player himself may have to retire at the young age of 25.

    However, as H says we are not a charity. We therefore must protect our interests and do what is best for the club and I'm sorry but chucking a few grand a week at a fella in the hope he'll ever play again is simply ludicrous.

    Your suggestion of giving him a couple of grand a week as an incentive is a strange one. He's been getting between 6 and 8 grand a week and that's not been enough of an incentive to get him back on the pitch, so how a decrease of over 50% will do the trick is beyond me.

    Besides, the only incentive he should need to get back playing is his desire to re pay the faith and support Charlton athletic have shown in him, by paying his wages for the last eighteen months whilst he's been keeping our medical department busy and nowhere near the pitch!!
     
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  20. WWOCB

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    Franco, the incentive is the 'bonus' for when he returns

    I'm not saying we're a charity, I just feel that if he's released, the board won't fork out for a player of his quality. If the board can't afford to pay 2k a week then we're in a mess. My desire for him to stay isn't out of a sense of pity, its a sense of sportsmanship, whilst looking to the future (something this club has done nothing of for the past 5 years). Besides, if he goes somewhere else it will come back to bite us on the arse as always :p
     
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