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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by BillysStatue, Aug 25, 2014.

  1. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    Oh FFS ... now we have Eddie Gray doing a Lorimer and spouting out a load of garbage ... to say Hock is "doing his best with what he's got" is just fcuking senseless ... what does that even mean? So if he was coach at Real Madrid right now and they were bottom, it would be because he's coach and doing his best, but his best isn't good enough or his players aren't good enough ... then the real winner, the comment that's supposed to sway us in favour of Hock and Cellino on this disastrous appointment, and trust me, this is easily the most pathetic thing I've heard in ages!

    "Would someone like Jose Mourinho do any better if he was in charge at Leeds? No, I don't think so."

    Sweet jeezus, really? What an unbelievable thing to say. Firstly, yes, Mourinho would sort this team out in a heartbeat, and they'd play their hearts out for him. He is a proven coach, a genuine winner and a tactical genius. He knows how to get the best from his players. Leeds certainly wouldn't be trundling out performances like these under Jose. No way!!

    Secondly Eddie, how can you even think of classing Hock in the same league as Mourinho, because that's what you've done. To say Mourinho would do no better is ridiculous, and if it's designed to give credibility to Hock's "work" so far at Leeds, well it's just fcuking laughable.

    Another Leeds Legend talking **** because he's protecting his paycheck, but honestly Eddie, it's better to either tell the truth or say nothing at all. This statement certainly won't persuade the Leeds faithful that Hock is the man for the job when the whole world can clearly see that he's not.
     
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  2. Doc

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    I would do a better job than Hock, Eire would do a better job than Hock, Billy would do a better job than Hock, Shaks would not pass a pub, Leeds60 would do a better job. Eddie shut up man otherwise you'll become another Lorimer.

    This club is a laughing stock, it was when bates took over and when he left, it was a laughing stock last season and still a laughing stock now because the media love to attack our crazy superstitious owner and we think its funny that we get a coach none of us had heard about. I need it to stop and for people in the media and fans around the country to think that we're on our way back. Hockaday will never be the answer and I'm sorry for the guy but you can't polish a turd.
     
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  3. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    I think practically anyone who has seen a game of football and understands Leeds in the slightest would do a better job than the Hock.

    Out of interest though, is it inconceivable to think Eddie just thinks that and it has nothing to do with his paycheck?
     
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  4. Doc

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    I think a good test would be for each of us to throw all last seasons squad and all this seasons squad into a hat and pick a team. I would bet that most of us would pick a team predominantly having this seasons squad members. Which means Hock has a better team than BMcD had last season, yet results are even worse?
     
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  5. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    Because Doc, regardless of how it ended with McD and how poor we were second half of the season I still truly believe he is a very good manager especially at championship level. The first half of our season was proof of that, and I'm not saying he didn't deserve to get sacked when I say that.

    Hock imo. isn't even close to the same level.
     
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  6. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    Josh good point, and I thought exactly that before I wrote this post ... now, if Eddie said this three weeks ago off his own bat I may have felt differently, but its the timing that cements it for me ... the day after Cellino says he's keeping Hock, Eddie has a decision to make, agree or disagree with Cellino ... so Eddie chooses to "agree" because its the safe bet, he rolls out exactly what Hock is saying about working "with what he's got", and then throws in the Mourinho stupidity that says to me he's protecting himself ... I honestly don't for one minute believe that Eddie or anyone else on the planet (except maybe Hock and Junior) feel that Mourinho wouldn't do a better job ... come on, it is ridiculous to think this, just plain foolish, but this is what happens when the club is tumbling into oblivion ... Hock will not get better, he's right when he says this is his best, and he simply has to go
     
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  7. Josh-LUFC

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    Billy, I think your taking that comment too literal. I would say it was an exaggeration to prove his point (which didn't work in all honesty).

    I don't think its inconceivable to think that someone who has been in the game for as long as Eddie Gray believes that 5 competitive games is too soon to judge. Personally, for me the writing is on the wall and I think its obvious the Hock isn't gonna get this back but in general ex-players and managers and whatnot historically will always stay on the side of loyalty to managers. A public figure saying someone should be sacked, I dunno just seems like a bad idea.
     
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  8. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    Josh, all Eddie needed to write about was the game on Saturday and say nothing at all about Hock and the job he's doing so far ... just talk about the game ... Gray has criticised our tactics before, now he agrees with Hock that its the players who are bad ... bulltwang!!
     
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  9. clarkeyking

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    my nephew who is 30 is a bit of an expert on italian football he has a sad yet very huge interest in the game over there , anyway cut a long story as short as i can i was discussing with him yesterday why oh why choose hockawally ? his reply almost makes utter sense------ok mc wants a an italian manager however that will prove unpoular with our fans as some even felt sorry for donut and sew mc as some kind of mafia godfather and we should appoint a brit so he hires the biggest idiot he can who of course is british knowin he will **** it up as indeed hockawally has, so in doing so the fans will then be pleased to get anyone including an italian which mc no doubt will install----makes sense ???????
     
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    A little green man from Mars would do for me, if he could get us going in the right direction.
     
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  11. Josh-LUFC

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    I thought this a while ago to be honest.

    I just can't imagine anyone who would invest as much as Cellino has would hire someone he thinks would do a bad job though in order to hire an italian. Regardless, you would do what YOU believe would be best straight from the off and thats my issue with that theory
     
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  12. clarkeyking

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    I know josh but at the time the sacking of bm left a raw nerve with some leeds fans (not me i must add), and to hire the man mc wanted straight away would have caused great distane, this way he gets what he wants without to much opposition, by the way my nephew is convinced mc will make leeds a force again !
     
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  13. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    clarkey, here's the thing ... you may well be spot on knowing how crazy and unpredictable Cellino can be, and if it helps him to bring in the man he really wants, he will do it ... but for goodness sakes, get rid of Hock now
     
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    Makes a lot of sense. Hopefully right as there will have been a purpose to the first month or twos pain
     
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  15. clarkeyking

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    yeah and if it costs mc £180,000 to get rid that will be loose change in the grand scheme
     
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    I think MC should install that peachy bum daughter of his in charge, would be some eye candy for the fans instead of watching the dross on the pitch <laugh>
     
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  17. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Arse of bay watch, face of crime watch.
     
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  18. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    So what, arse is most important bit <ok>
     
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  19. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    The Brighton board is over there.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
     
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  20. Doc

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    Looks like there's a way of rectifying the captaincy problem, as the blades have put a bid in for Pearce. Clough has confirmed that they've been in negotiations for a week. Great let him go as he shouldn't be skipper and especially when he's not good enough to command a first team start.
     
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