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Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Jason Hudson, Oct 30, 2011.

  1. Jason Hudson

    Jason Hudson Member

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    Anyone seen his interview on manutd.com about Brazil?

    Not the content really (think he mentions kids, does he have children!?), but his English has improved so much, he is almost fluent now.

    Compare that to say someone like Tevez. Now I haven't been bothered to look for interviews that he's done in England recently but from his time at United, he barely spoke a word of English (which begs the question how his relationship with Park and Evra worked!).

    Anderson has generally played very, very well this season. Looks fit, strong and has even chipped in with a few goals as well. He has had a very strong 2011 so could this be more evidence of a foreign player that is now settled because he is comfortable with his surroundings in England, accepts that the weather isn't great and the food might be a bit different and reproduces that form on the pitch?

    I know there are exceptions to what I've said and Ando has a personality that not many others have, but you can start to see him produce his potential into results on the pitch.
     
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  2. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The settling in time has helped, but I think the lack of injury in 2011 has also helped. Thus far Ando has seemed to get a serious injury every time he starts hitting top form for Utd and has to build his fitness from the ground up, which has obviously hindered his ability to adapt. If he can stay injury free, or at least serious injury free, for the rest of the season (touch wood) I think he'll be one of our most important players.
     
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    I'm a big fan of Anderson. He and Cleverley should play whenever fit.
     
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  4. WorldClassRooney

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    I love Ando, he's my favourite player lol. Just something about his playful attitute is infectious.
    Anyone ever watch that show Heroes? I always pronounce his name like Hiro's sidekick UnDoe(phonetically) lolol
     
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    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    Now every time I see his name I'm going to hear it in my head as UnDoe. I hate you <laugh>
     
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  6. stopthepress

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    With somebody else behind them, preferably. We really should be playing 3 in midfield, because all of our possible midfield combos look way too open in a 2.

    I like Anderson, but personally I think he's at the wrong club. I think he'd be better off getting a move to Spain, with a manager who will play him in the more advanced position that he played at Gremio and Porto.
     
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  7. Ivor Biggun

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    I would hate nothing more than if he was shipped out to say Porto, showed the world his true potential and suddenly all those who have been slating him turning on SAF and crying that united really need a player like him.
     
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  8. Jason Hudson

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    I've got no doubts that SAF will mould Cleverley into the modern midfielder- i.e. adept at both defensive duties as well as attacking. Theres lots of parallels to be made with Schwienstiger IMO. He started out as a wide man and has become a central midfielder in the last few seasons, bearing in mind he is still only what 26, 27?

    Cleverley started not as a winger per se, but certainly a wide man and now plays in a central role. I know it's a bit of a tenuous link but I think there are similarities. If that is the case then an Anderson Cleverley midfield duo should work well and it has done so far.

    Fletcher for me between 2008-2010 was unbelievably good. And that wasn't just the best of a bad bunch in midfield either. There was nothing he couldn't do. He would tackle, close down, play the simple pass, play the hollywood pass, assist from the centre and out wide and score goals with feet and head. What more could you have possibly wanted from a midfielder? That is what truly upset me when people label him as a destructive player because you just have to watch him during that period and he often was running the show.

    But he hasn't really done that since his comeback from his illness. I thought he was very good against Liverpool but he hasn't looked like the player that was so key to our play in all competitions.

    Carrick is an interesting one, not sure why he isn't being played more. Considering the sucess that he and Anderson had together over the last 10 months or so and with our midfield looking a lot more open than normal. Has he been injured? Another thing I don't understand, why doesn't Berbatov play more often when more often than not we are crying out for better possesion? We retain the ball infinately better when Berbatov has the ball, Rooney has this incessant tendancy to play the ball first time when he is on the pitch with Hernandez. As great as having someone like Hernandez on the pitch, I can't help but wonder how better we'd be right now if we just kept the ball moving and built pressure slowing like we did against Norwich for example. Because when the opposition defence play deep, Hernandez is nearly always kept quiet and we need to keep the ball and move it well to drag players out of position and that is something that Cleverley does well, like he did at Everton!
     
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  9. Areba Hernandez

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    That could well happen, though I hope it doesnt as I`m a big fan of the lad and hope he can show his true class at United.

    Supporters are quick to point out Ando`s flaws with him not being great at this or the other, what he was great at was playing as an attacking mid but we have decided to reprogramme him into what we want him to be rather than just letting him be himself.He mustnt have been too bad at it for us to pay £20m for his services and after being voted the best player at under 18 World Cup.
     
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  10. SAMOC

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    Anderson will never be a great player, he needs replacing. I think he is great to have at the club, but he will never be either the dm/holding player or the attacking Cm we need. He cant shoot or score and he cant tackle, it really is quite straight forward for me.

    I was one who thought he would go onto be a great great player for united, but he won't. I hope I am proved wrong
     
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    Pretty much shown what he is tonight
     
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    He was woeful, not good enough for United IMO...
     
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  13. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    Oh no! Anderson had a bad game, whatever shall we do. I know lets all say he isn't good enough for United, and completely disregard his form for the last 6 months. What? Anderson are attack minded center mid had to partner Wayne Rooney, a striker, in the middle of the park? Oh so you're telling me that he's rubbish for playing center mid in a 4-4-2 with 2 wingers and 3 strikers on pitch. Sorry Ando, if you can't completely boss a midfield all by yourself, then you're absolute ****, and you should back your bags. Now. <doh>
     
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  14. SAMOC

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    If you read my quotes it was before his one bad game lol

    Mate if you think he is good enough, you need to realise it is not 1997
     
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  15. SAMOC

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    What kind of midfielder cant shoot, score, tackle or complete basicc passes ?
     
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  16. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    Michael Carrick.

    Who in our midfield does any of those things? Fletcher can tackle, but other than that we're apparently weak. Ando is the only midfielder that we have that actually tries to set up and/or score goals. His through balls can be found wanting sometimes but he's the only midfielder we have that is willing to attempt anything that might result in a goal. Every other midfielder we have gets the ball on the 18 and passes sideways or backwards. Ando has score what, like 6 goals since late April of last year? He can/should have more but seeing as he had scored 2 goals in a United shirt prior to that, I would say he's heading in the right direction. When's playing with Carrick he looks a lot more dangerous as he as the freedom to roam forward. Ando and Cleverly already have a good understanding as a partnership, and its bound to get better when they've played together longer than 4 months. Notice when we were playing our best football this season, Ando and Cleverly were starting together?
     
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  17. Jason Hudson

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    He gave the ball away as much as Rooney did. Created more for the forwards than Rooney did.

    But why are people lauding over Rooney's performance? He played a few passes but nothing of note. He did his defensive duties but that's a given for someone in that position.

    I'm not saying Anderson had a magnificant game last night but only, ONLY Jones played well. Berbatov did well apart from taking his chances, and De Gea didn't put a foot wrong.

    The problem isn't with who's there, it's who isn't there. I said it a few times before last night, we need Carrick as the shield. Most people said in the transfer window that Sneijder isn't what we need as much as the media portray our lack of creativity from midfield. We need a strong, combative midfielder that allows the likes of Anderson and Cleverley to play as well as closing down the opposition, something we have lacked ever since Fletcher has been out with his illness.
     
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  18. King Shergar

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    I think he is the weak link in the current first team, I realy don't see what he offers. Physically he is good, but his actual footballing ability is poor, he can't shoot, pass or tackle, to anywere near the level required to play at the top level.

    It used to crack me up, when he used to copy Ronaldinho, by passing whilst looking the other way. I could understand him doing it, if he was a world class attacking player, but it was quite laughable from a player, who offers little, if any attacking threat.

    With players like Anderson in our side, we are never going to have what it takes to compete with Barca, in Europe, and were going to struggle to compete with City, now they've bought all these world class players. I know for a fact that Guardiola or Mancini wouldnt even look twice at Anderson, and that's because he's not good enough, simple as that :biggrin:
     
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  19. Ivor Biggun

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    If Anderson was playing alongside Keane or someone like him it'd be a different story.

    He's a tireless box to box midfielder, with the ability to take people on and is quite an attacking talent, or he used to be.

    He was labeled the next Ronaldinho and trailed by chelsea and real madrid.

    In his first season alongside Carrick he made several great showings. Since then he's been injured, rotated and partnered with several different people not to mention Carricks shocking drop in form.

    Your never going to see the best of Anderson while he has to play more defensively and fight his instincts in order to cover the real weakness in uniteds midfield which is the lack of an enforcer, or someone who can boss the midfield and allow players like Anderson to just play.

    The good thing about last night is it probably highlighted really well to all the f*king idiots who keep saying we should sign attacking players like Sneijder, Ozil and the like. Buying another attacking midfielder is not the answer, it never has been. Even Rooney playing there wasn't enough, so stop thinking your playing football manager and learn the game.
     
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  20. SAMOC

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    You arei n denial if you think ANY of our CM are good enough for man united, they are all old enough to be peaking now, anderson cant cut it, fletcher has gone off the boil and carrick is completely ****
     
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