The amount of mancunians ranging for senior citizens, who had something to do with the club to people who really ought to be neutral given their positions that are telling us that moyes is a great appointment is hilarious. They really all expect this to be a seamless transition and utd to just keep on flying. I have seen a few deluded LFC fans in my time no question but this mass leming like run for the cliff that is David Moyes is simply astounding. Best of luck to them, i can only think there's an awful shock coming.
Careful now Seriously, I really doubt Fergie is totally pulling out of running the team next season, I think he will be still managing the team to a degree just not officially. This can't be made public as it would totally undermine Moyes in the eyes of fans and the media. The Champions League will be a good point of reference, Moyes will surely need help there in running that campaign at least for the coming season, it is unknown Territory as well being atop the league at a late stage in the season. Fergie will have a hell of a lot of input next season I have little doubt about that fact. I reckon unofficially Moyes is still gonna be the United No2 next season just in order to get his feet on the ground
MOyes will be a puppet to begin with. He won't choose/ratify signings this summer, SAF and higher-ups will. SAF is still making hte decisions, only now as DOF. Moyes will only get full control in a year or two I reckon
Alex: David, I've recommended you to replace me. For first year you will be a puppet and I will sign all your players for you and make the big decisions. Hows that sound?
look its quite simple moyes has never ever played a passing ball retention game... if we see utd losing that ball retention and patient but high tempo game then you know why.... yes the CL will be a big indicator but they do have the players up front. I cannot see moyes just take over and see utd play the same game over the whole course of the year and frankly if he adds one big lump player that'll be that. I can see the "man management" "intensity" stuff but i can also see the game plan change and when the game plan changes it could still suit english football but not top 4 nor the CL. If moyes loses the top 4 battle he won't win a league... if he makes it a slog fest type of game for big games cos under pressure he reverts to type then he won't get 5 years to learn the utd way will he. Simply put employ a manager to play his way, don't employ a manager to change him to your way. Mourinho had courted utd for 5 years he must be raging but i reckon maureen only joins teams ready to win... cheslea to spend 200mil and win the league.
Everton have had more possession than their opponents in the vast majority of games they've played this season, so your whole argument is flawed. Add to that, that Moyes played to the strengths of what he had available. He didn't try & get limited players to play tika taka ****e when he arrived, when they simply weren't up to it. As the quality of his squad increased so did the quality of the football, as they were capable of carrying off a passing game. Moyes at United will get his side playing in a manner befitting of the players he has to pick from.
possession... hoofs to felliani's elbows is not possession. utd do not play tika take ****e either. they play a dynamic passing game using width, they do not hoof the thing. Moye will be moyes end of. It took ferguson many years and lessons from europe to develop that game, not to mention the tempo and professionalism. if moyes was that good you'd have done way better, how many did you draw this year? not one trophy over 10 years? you defend the guy all you want but thinking that this transiotn will be so smooth that utd will be favorites for the league is plain dilluded.
And therein lies his problem. Even the most diehard of mancs would agree that individually, a lot of the manc players aren't exactly world beaters or setting world alight. The difference is, and always has been, the man management/motivational skills of Ferguson who knows exactly when & how to make effective use of the hair dryer. It's synergy in it's purest form where the collective is greater than the sum of the parts, and it's always been Ferguson who enables these synergies. I think they're in for a rude awakening if/when things start to go wrong. Mito, sort your spelling out - it's deluded
I agree, it's the ultimate poison chalice & Moyes will have to adapt very quickly if he's to succeed. I was taking issue with the idiotic comments of MITO who's generalisations about Moyes style & ability are baseless & therefore purile.
We've had more possession than our opponents in the vast majority of our games this season - fact. We've played some great football - fact. We've scored some fabulous team goals - fact.
I will say right now that Everton aren't actually all hoof, they do tend to mix it up but they do play some nice stuff, good example is the Pienaar goal (I think) a few weeks back, that was a lovely team goal. They can be direct at times but when you have Fellaini in your team who is one of the best at holding the ball up then why not? I find the situation with both Everton and Man Utd a weird one, usually when you're bringing in a new manager you're looking to change things, but for both teams in this case you want some one who will keep things moving a long and hit the ground running. Moyes has massive boots to fill, Man Utd's fight and winning mentality is well documented, I'm not sure if Moyes can carry that on if I'm honest, but then again I don't think anyone can have the same impact as Fergie, we'll just have to wait and see.
Agree with this. I don't think you can dismiss Moyes imediately. He's obviously a good manager, but it's my opinion that he's a long way from Fergie and I think in a team like United's, it's the manager's quality with really pulls them together and brings out the top performances. Those games where they're playing poor but grind out a late winner or secure a 2-1 win are massive games. I don't see Moyes being able to do that in his first year or two at least. Which is why I wouldn't go with United for the PL next season, but Chelsea or City instead. I do think he'll come up trumps in a few years though, providing he gets the time to improve as a manager and build the squad - but I question whether he'll get that time in a team with far higher expectations than what he's used to.
Yes, I agree with this. And there's been times this season I've wished we'd had Carroll back to hoof the ball to him occassionally (Oldham springs to mind). I do sometimes worry that Brendan is a rigidly plan A person, which is okay if you're Barca, but we're not. I bet you, for instance, that we'd have scored against reading away had we been able to throw Carroll on as a sub. Don't get me wrong, I'm a pass-and-move devotee and have been all my life. But Shankly, Paisley, Busby, Nicholson - all of them attacking football men, we're not averse to throwing on the big forward or pushing the centre-back up for set-pieces. I think Everton have played good football the last eighteen months, generally: a damn sight more so than we did under Hodgson anyway! Give Moyes a chance at OT. Ferguson will be back-seat-driving anyway for the first season. Hope he fails though.
