Thanks for those who delved into the psychological depths with me this morning, but now just seen Terry Paine's interview on saints player. What a legend. Best player he'd played against? Pele and Best. Best goalkeeper he beat? Gordon Banks. Wow. Terry was a true great, and it was lovely to see him in such good health and in such fine spirits. Well done whoever decided to make him Club President. Sorry if someone has already posted on this topic, but I didn't notice one and just wanted other fans to take a look if they haven't already. Truly a player who bought Southampton FC greatness.
Again, I will have to rely on the experiences of the er....more mature forum users as I wasn't around to witness him in action.
Yep, Terry Paine was a great player who I watched many, many times when he was in his prime. Had a very educated right peg which provided the likes of Big Ron, Mickey Channon and Martin Chivers with superb service, he was also one of the few players that managed to convert from an orthodox right winger into a very gifted midfield played. He also was very gifted at leaving a foot in the tackle, one player he didn't like playing against and gave a wide birth to was Pompey's left back at the time, a big ape of a man call Roy Lunis, who after his playing days were over got sent down for theft.
You know he could pop the ball right on Chivers, Davies or Channon's head, because people have obviously told you so much. But he could also pinpoint a pass as well and he beat his man by pure skill because, although he was reasonably quick, he wasn't blessed with explosive pace like John Sydenham over on the other wing. One bit of Paine trivia is that he wasn't hugely popular amongst a significant section of the crowd because he would partake in a bit of gamesmanship, and in those days [Saints] players still had to be absolutely correct in their behaviour. Slightly later, Leeds Utd of the era changed that for good, but Terry would do the occasional bit of kicking the ball away, back chatting the ref, tormenting his opposite player, and perhaps even draw a foul. These things were relatively new then and it got up some people's noses - Saints fans as well. He may not have been everybody's hero but if Terry wasn't playing well, you could practically guarantee Saints weren't either. I thought he was just great.
I seem to remember that at one time he was ever-present for Saints for something like 2 and a half seasons, or it may have been more. That was in the days before substitutions as well. Like all that Saints team from the late 60's he was a boyhood hero of mine, fabulous player.
I actually joined his fan club as a life member, so theoretically I suppose I'm still in it. For our younger readers I would say that the closest modern player to him is David Beckham. Paine was, of course, considerably better!
I seem to recall Terry Paine had a fruit and veg shop in Shirley in the mid/late 70`s. It that correct, or has dimentia set in ?
I think he was a local councillor at one time too. PS How is the Scottish Referendum going? Having seen Question Time last night it seems that rhetoric rather than reason will influence the outcome. When Scotland becomes an independent nation will you be allowed to Support the Saints or will the SNP consider that an act of treason?
Yep, he could be. All part of his little act of gamesmanship. He did. Being all the way down at Foy's corner, near the bottom of Shirley, I never went in there. I think it's a shame there's not a lot more than memories out there that record Terry Paine's football. The only bits of colour video are from later in his career. Totally understandable, as his era pre-dated mass coverage of every game. Here's an example against West Ham. Older members will recognise so many players here: [video=youtube;qSSq6ShK1Ck]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSSq6ShK1Ck[/video]
I think the referendum is going to be very close - it isn`t a black and white issue for most people. For example, there`s thousands of English/Welsh/NIrish people for whom Scotland/Aberdeen is now home - I know a few who vote SNP. Many Scots are fiercely proud of being Scottish, but are also very proud of being British (I`m one) - when faced with the referendum, that`s quite a dilemma to rationalise. The main catalist for the rise of the SNP over the last 25 years isn`t anyone Scottish - it was Margaret Thatcher - she got everyone`s nose out of joint with the Poll tax, destruction of heavy industry and sneering, patronising attitude. You`re right, rhetoric will be important, as it is in most elections, I suppose. There are many issues which are unclear - defence, whose-oil-is-it, what currency ete etc. I don`t think I`d be a considered a traitor for supporting Saints - a nutcase, or a missionary maybe ?
Sorry to butt into this chat with this observation, but if you finished a football question with... I support Saints, surely people would assume you meant St Mirren..?
True Godders - known for leaving foot in when he was about to be tackled - that said - it was a different game them with defenders allowed to go through the back of players to win the ball. As mentioned elsewhere - he was a greater crosser of the ball and could pick out a striker while running full tilt down the wing. But also - he was an exponent of drilling nthe ball in low and hard across the six yard box too. Finally, it should be remembered that he made the England 1966 World Cup Squad and played alongside the very best of that generation. When I lived in East Africa he was (he may still be) a pundit in DSTV (South Afrian equivalent of Sky) and he is a very good pundit - still reads the game well and makes intelligent commentary.
I remember few games actually. Just snippets usually. One thing I do remember is that Paine was down the other end scoring, so that meant I was back in the Archers Road end for some reason. I'd long since transferred myself to the Milton by then, so this must have been a time where I rushed into the ground with seconds to spare. One thing I noticed on the video was that by then Saints had gone 'near post' with their crosses, just like their opponents WHU had pioneered years earlier. Ron Davies always went to the far post and so didn't score that night, but he drew the big defenders away from Micky Channon, so answering commentator Barry Davies question of how Channon had been given so much space for his goal. And Jimmy Gabriel demonstrated the consummate penalty take, showing we were blessed in that department even in those days. The cameo from Tom Jenkins was good. Glad someone brought him down, or he would have probably dribbled the ball into the goalkeeper's hands.
