Our season ended virtually two months early. Little or no interest in even following current match day performances knowing what we have aren't nearly good enough and few of them will be with us next season hopefully. We can but hope that with the addition of our top class championship manager coupled with some carefully extracted investment from the great one will finally kick start a proper promotion push for the premiership next year. Personally, in over forty years supporting Leeds, I can't remember many other finishes to a season as poor as this one, or as vital a period in terms of rebuilding the team. I for one, am cautiously optimistic, twelve months will see us in a far better place. I would also like whatever players Warnock brings in being given a fair crack of the whip by certain sections of our supporters. How about giving them a few months to prove themselves rather than slate virtually every signing, on forums like this one before they even get to kick a ball for us. I suppose I'm esking for too much with that one.
Hear hear!! I much prefer us supporting whoever wears the White shirt on a Saturday than moaning or shouting abuse at opposition fans. Backing the boys is what we do at Leeds, we are world famous for our undying support of our team. I trust Colin, and he knows how great our support is and he wants a packed Elland Road lifting the boys every week.
I can't remember such a poor season in terms of quality of play and players. More losses at home than at any other time in my life. No wonder the home crowd is so brittle, we have had to endure some real dross. It is up to the club to bring in some players and staff who will be fit to wear the shirt proudly. Otherwise, asking us to stump up the 5th highest prices in the land gives us every right to vent our spleens. The real focus of our ire is Ken Bates rather than any single player
No. The quality of our players was much higher and we should never have been relegated in either season. But our play wasn't worse either. The seasons that do come close were a couple in the 80s under Eddie Gray and Billy Bremner, and the season we got to the play-off final under Blackwell - now that was a truly boring season. But the current season is the worst because we have no potential. The team out there today would have struggled in a League 2 match
Which is why we drew with a play-off Championship team? I know it's been a disappointing season but this team had the potential to make the play-offs without the managerial overhaul and has 5 or 6 players capable of making a top 2 side's starting 11.
Elland Road is renowned for being an intimidating atmosphere, not just one where we brainlessly applaud the 11 men and 'know our place' by not having an opinion. Of course we should support the team, but supporting the club means it's also our job to create a hostile atmosphere towards anyone trying to stand in the way of Leeds United's God-given right to success. Those obstructions consist of A) the opposition team and, of course B) the board of directors we currently have. We should make those people fear coming to Elland Road. If you just support the team and not the club, I think you're doing it wrong to put it bluntly. Passion for the Leeds XI, passion against the opponents and passion for a proper team of directors behind the scenes so that the club can be great once again. That's how Elland Road needs to be. Eireleeds, I will reserve my right to judge any signing that comes in. When I go through the turnstiles and stand on the terrace, I'm hardly going to tell them I think they're **** unless it's their fault by them not performing to the best of their ability. Nor will most Leeds fans. Hell, we even sing songs about bloody Tresor Kandol and Enoch Snowunmi to this day! But if we get in another shipment of has-beens, rejects and freebies, I'm not going to smile through it, 'keep the faith', 'be positive' and pretend Warnock's going to work miracles he hasn't been able to so far. Bates and Harvey can't be let off the hook in any way.
I didn't suggest anyone shouldn't judge incoming new players but if you read my original post properly, I asked for them to be given a fair crack of the whip. A few months is not unreasonable. Judging them before they kick a ball is pathetic but then, so are a few on here anyway
To be fair how many players have been signed with poor records for clubs only to go on and be amazing !! and how many good players have been signed only to do **** all, strange how when certain players come back to the club they were successful at they come good again, mentality, or comfort zone !!!
Aren't you contradicting yourself? Like I say, for me it's an issue of commitment rather than ability. I'm never going to boo some ****, inept player if they work their socks off. But if they turn up and don't immediately work for the shirt, they'll quickly get a hostile reception, and rightly so.
Ristac, if we'd given Rachubka a few months in goal, we wouldn't have been good enough to even be fighting relegation
I'm always willing to give the players a chance regardless of what I've heard (which is rarely good). The problem with this is that if we've heard they suck, 9 times out of 10, they do.
Very few at Leeds. Name the last time we got a player with a poor playing record that did anything other than prove us right. On the flip side if you try name the occasional signing we've had that has a good playing record, a fair few of them have failed to perform after joining Leeds. The whole atmosphere around the club is a negative one. And I don't mean that in a everybody's lost confidence way, I mean in a way that every strategy of running the club is a negative one designed to minimize costs, or rather minimize risks. The developments are into low margin industries, and low margin industries are typically so because they are guaranteed money earners because they are low risk - although that said I'd imagine due to the circumstances and failure by the board to see things in the context they are in (nobody wants to use the corporate facilities at a failing football club) I don't expect they're going to bring in any where close to an amount that's going to have any benefit. We don't buy players because buying players is a risk if it doesn't work out. We don't pay high wages and give long contracts to any half decent players because it's a risk - in the unlikely event that a top quality player signs for a high wage and long term contract doesn't work out, we're stuck with them. Much better to get someone half as good on loan for a fraction of the cost - even if they do cost the same amount of money you can send them back and there's no commitment. Of course, when you have someone who couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag like Shaun Harvey, you end up with crap players on long term contracts and wages they shouldn't be on (Leigh Bromby - he's ok but 11k a week? Seriously? Go back to delivering post you utter failure), but that's a different matter. Cowardly, negative business practices.
Marko - some would say that Gradel had failed to set the world alight while at Leicester, and they were happy to offload Kisnorbo. Both did very well at LUFC, although it took Maxi some time and Kissa has been injured more than not Don't think Bromby is on anywhere near that amount of money - it was quoted as 14k a week just two weeks ago. Put him on £3k to £4k a week.
The majority of players that fall under this category tend to have bad playing records at various clubs over a short period of time. Darren O'Dea is as good an example as any.
