nally we may have an end to the Ricky Alvarez saga. The Argentine version of Goal and Portugal's A Bola, report that Alvarez is being treated as a free agent and is set for a medical with FC Porto. The footballer is said to be on his way to sign a contract with FC Porto and will be their player, ending part of the argument over whether he should be at Inter Milan or Sunderland. Is this the end of it for Sunderland? Not one bit. Inter Milan want their money and the case has already been registered with CAS, the Court of Arbitration for Sport. Whilst it was no surprise that the Italian media reported the whole thing as being Sunderland's fault, it could be a concern that the Portuguese and Argentine media have taken that line too. Sunderland are described as simply refusing to pay the transfer fee which was contractually due, with no legal basis for doing so. This could get very messy indeed and if Sunderland are as at fault as is suggested, then it's a ridiculous situation to put the club in. They could find themselves paying a big transfer fee and not getting a player or facing some kind of restriction on future transfers. Then there's the very real issue of clubs no longer trusting Sunderland on such matters. For Alvarez this is a great resolution, he gets to join a brilliant club and fight for honours. None of this was ever his fault and he's done well to keep his head right.
If he passes his medical with Porto then that flies in the face of all the stories that he is carrying an injury and require an operation to resolve it. If he is not injured then why is he not in our squad, the plot thickens and I no longer know who to believe in this issue. Baffling...
I don't get this, how is he able to sign for another club? If we get made to pay a transfer fee to Inter then as far as I'm concerned, he's our player otherwise why are we paying a transfer fee, when no transfer is taking place? It's all getting very confusing...
If Inter have decided to cancel his contract with them, as they are so sure we are at fault, then if FIFA rule for us then Alvarez is a free agent (and can move to Porto for free) However If we are forced to pay a transfer fee for him, then wouldn't that leave the door open for Sunderland to sue Porto - as they are essentially doing us out of a transfer fee ?
I am mystified but we are Sunderland and always suffer these confusing events - but expect Alvarez to be a massive success for his next team ........ (Porto?)
I`m pleased the lad is getting his getting his career back on track because, as far as I can see, this has nothing to do with him. As for the rest of it we won`t find out the true picture until the result of the hearing. If it transpires our club has screwed up (again) heads must roll. In my view the board couldn`t organise an orgy in a brothel and I expect their incompetence to be highlighted yet again. I hope I`m wrong but I wouldn`t be the least bit surprised if this costs us.
He's only free to join another European club on loan, pending the Inter/Sunderland hearing. That allows the player to earn a living until the hearing decides the issue, but he's still subject to their decision. See funkydick's #55 at: http://www.not606.com/threads/does-anyone-know.309844/page-3
Just thought - Remind me - in all the confusion with DOF I hope it was'nt who was heavily involved in contracts and transfer negotiations in earlier ES tenure - she is successful in her profession but obviously lacking in football acumen - now who could it be .....I wonder …not MB ......KTF and ETU
Where's the SAFC cock-up? We loaned a player, and he got injured. Inter refused to o.k. the necessary operation. Inter was still his parent club at the time of the injury (February or March) because we didn't secure our PL status until the second last game of the season at Arsenal.
Don't think he's been treated as a free agent. I'm sure it's a loan and who ever loses the case will be the parent club which he'll return to at the end of the loan.
The other 'issue' here is whether this has a knock on effect to your reputation as people to loan players out to. They were odd circumstances so I don't really see why it would but the key bit I can't get my head around is why Inter would refuse to allow a seemingly necessary operation?
So the two clubs are fighting over who should not have a player while a club currently better than both opts to take him on loan? I'll admit to knowing the square root of **** all in this saga BUT that tells me something is not clear cut
if we lose the case we deserve all we get for not having a get out clause regarding minimum no. of games, injuries etc! What would have happened if he got a career ending injury or he died god forbid.....would we still have had to sign a dead player come the end of the season????
By the same virtue that Celtic always get to a cl qualifying round as a minimum. Dinamo Zagreb are in the cl as well as a fair few other 'poor' teams. Fancy going to Croatia?
Porto are a very big team in their own right. Comparing them to the clubs you have listed there is, quite frankly, hilarious. They have won 2 European Cups, just one less than the mighty Inter who are in a similarly competitive league and numerous other European competitions. My point stands. Porto are, at the moment, are more attractive team to play for than Inter