Allardce mark ii

Sorry to do the Emperor's New Clothes bit, lads, but that performance last night was abysmal.

Most of the time, out tactic (such as there was one) seemed to be to belt long balls up to Ameobi and Best. More often than not, the ball would break loose into midfield, where QPR totally dominated.

Tiote was very poor, by his high standards, and also received his obligatory booking. Cabaye was pretty anonymous, and certainly did not live up to his billing, on these boards, as being much better than Barton.

Ok. We were dogged in defence. However, had Boothroyd had his shooting boots on, we would have been 3-0 down by half-time!

Ameobi was his usual rubbish self, and Ba might as well as not have come on the pitch. Yet again there was no final product from Jonas, who only flatters to deceive.

All in all, a terrible performance

 

It was a very poor performance by us. You have to give them credit of course, I think they'll survive this season. Tiote is struggling badly with possession, and this is handicapping Cabaye. Both were left exposed by a tactical mistake on Pardews part, but you'll have games when you get it wrong. He just needs to be braver in terms of changing when he does. Ferguson never waits, he'd rather lose having tried to change it rather than wait, and invariably it works out.

We missed Barton, it showed last night. He always got us ticking and did the same for them. After 5mins I said the first team to get it down and play in this wind will be on the front foot. Barton did this and got Taarabt playing. I'm not discussing Ameobi any furthe rto be honest. If people can't see he is not a viable option at this level, then they needs help. Too many long balls but I think they were scard to give it to Cheick for fear of him getting another attack for them going! When Tiote picks up Cabaye will, he needs to do some of his ugly work to let him play and find space. An additonal body would also have helped, as I say one for Pardew to learn from.

But Allardyce Mark II? Nah they've got a long way to go to match his levels of ****ness! It was very poor though and we need to address it.

 

I think once we get Santon settled in at full back (with all respect to Ryan Taylor over the wall...) and Jonas can start thinking about going forward again, along with the settling in of other new boys and Tiote regaining form we should see some improvements to performances, even if not results which have been fantastic so far. We're playing fairly poorly but are fourth, whats going on?

 

I agree, Pardew seems unable to make the team string 2 passes together along the ground. You have to wonder what the players do in training during the week for them to mentally check-out during the game and constantly take the easy way out by hitting the long ball forward instead picking a braver pass, thus making our play predictable and easy to defend against.

It wouldn't annoy me as much if we had a plan B to go to after our opponents have stopped 20 hoofballs attempts in a row...no...lets just keep giving it to Simpson and after he takes 3 touches to control the ball, then fakes to hit the ball 3 times thus letting the opposition close him down, he will then panic and kick it Hail Mary style randomly up-field.

Didn't Southampton and West Ham fans come on here and tell us that Pardew played good football...you could of fooled me

 

Yeah..the blokes ****. Ignore our unbeaten start to the season, and strong defence. He's ****. Ignore the fact he signed some decent players, he's ****. Ignore that we beat our fierce rivals at there place. He's ****.

Is my point made? ****ing dipshits.

Edit: BTW you spelt Allardyce wrong.

 

We will get better and once Santon and Ben Arfa are bleeded in we will be much better.

Injuries are my concern

 

I've said this before. The reason for QPR's domination is the fact that they had a packed midfield and dominated totally in that area. Playing through the midfield would have made us lose possession much closer to our net. So hoofing it and hoping for the best is all we could do. I just hope Pardew learns from this and does better research and scouting on Villa

 

Well just remember we were playing hoof ball with Allardyce, not scoring and conceding 4 at home to the likes of Portsmouth. If Pardew wants us to play hoof ball away from home and protect Tim Krul's goal who didn't have a save to make then so be it. Defence brilliant, midfield outnumbered, strikers got no service, nothing a change in formation can't sort out. Oh yeah and we're 4th in the league, wish the doom and gloomers would **** off.

 

Oh I just love the smell of delusion, in the morning!

The following couple of points arise from your excellent post:-

1. Dogged determination, and a large slice of luck, brought about our unbeaten start. However, had we being playing better sides, we might have lost both our last two matches

2. The players we have signed can only be called "decent" when they demostate this on the pitch. So far, although signs are promising, the jury is still out on whether they can adapt to the PL quickly enough so as to make us a better TEAM than we were last season.

3. As regards Pardew's "tactics", am I the only one that was reminded of FSA's Bolton, playing at SJP a couple of seasons ago, when watching Krul taking an eternity to take goal kicks, 15-20 minutes from the end of the time? For a club with our proud heriatge of playing football the right way, that was embarrassing. Also, what a team does, on the pitch, usually reflects what the manager tells them to do.

 

I was getting annoyed about us taking forever with goalkicks. I think we should have played 4-5-1.
Need to sort it out for Villa, as they have more quality to really hurt us.
On the bright side, 4th in the league, still unbeaten. (even if lucky).

Can't wait for Benni to come back!

 

You brought up delusion as a counter offensive. Your an idiot. Thats the last Ill be viewing of anything you write on here. I would plead to have you banned but freedom of speech and all that. Unfortunately your speech only drags out the hours in a day that I have to think in my head the best way to destroy you, but then dont even bother most of the time as you's are not worth it.

We are fourth, we are unbeaten, we have 3 clean sheets out of four. Does it ****in matter why we had clean sheets? look at Manchester United, played poorly quite a few times last season and came away with wins and draws. Just because we didnt look convincing do you believe that it wasnt deserved then ?? goals win matches, none have been scored in 3 matches against us, call it luck, call it fate, just call it true for the sake that the goals werent scored, end of.

This site is becoming more and more like a ****in graveyard. Happy and optimistic people cant get away with being so as they are shot down, its too hard to connect with other happy people as we are so outnumbered. Where-as the doom&gloomers run amok spouting their boring same old worthless opinions and do nothing but bring the mood down and make themselves look like ****in idiots at the same time.

4TH!!!!
3 CLEAN SHEETS!!
2 WINS
2 DRAWS
1 MIKE ASHLEY

 

Hardly Allardyce football. I should also mention that we have not exactly had an easy start. Arsenal (who were strong when we played them), Sunderland (our local rivals which makes things difficult) and Fulham (a side we never do well against) before playing QPR, who did outplay us but I think it was a case of new players really trying to impress Warnock. Facts are, taking the whole thing into perspective, we have done very well and the better thing is, we are going to improve!

 

Pleased somebody mentioned this, I was thinking the exact same. This start on paper looks easy to the average team, but: Fulham are a bit of a bogey team for us, Arsenal weren't half as ****ed as they were against Man U (they still had loads of players that werent suspended at the time), Sunderland away is a derby so could go either way and QPR were running high on confidence with all the new guys needing to prove they still had what it takes to compete in the PL.

 

Key difference between Pards and Allardyce? Pards is kicking long at Best, Shola and Ba and getting results, Allardyce did it to Owen and Martins and got Derby results. Once Cheicks passing again we can start playing through the midfield, Pardews not telling him to give the ball away.

Oh, and am I the only one who has no issues with us running a bit of time down away from home? Krul didn't even get booked!

 

I probably would see it slightly different. I thought we had a good start. Arsenal were already in a bit of a mess and under pressure. Sunderland can't score which suited our strong defence, but yeah always a tough game. Fulham I thought outplayed us first half but tired badly due to European exertions. Last night was always gonna be tough though. They were on a high. I think balance is the key. You have to be pleased when you view the table and that is all that counts. But I think we'd all say there is massive room for improvement in the performances. We too are trying to integrate a lot of new players. Unlike QPR they aren't mainly experinced PL pros. We have a solid base to work from, lets not be negative.

 

It's been said before but just thought I'd say it again. If anybody offered us the position we are in now, with the results we have had, at the start of the season we would all have bitten their arm off for it.

Yes last night's performance was dreadful, but we got a point, and another clean sheet. I have no doubt in my mind we would have lost that game in previous years. We haven't had the easy start that people think, and yes Pardew got it wrong last night, but he admitted it himself after the game. He said he should have put an extra man in midfield, and I have no doubts we will play 4-5-1 against Villa on sat.

And in regards to Pardew, give the guy some credit. Our defensive record has improved since he's been here and I don't think its a coincidence. I remember a couple of weeks after he was appointed Steven Taylor said in an interview he was impressed with his coaching, particularly his work with the defenders. Yes some of his substitutions, tactics I don't agree with but he knows better than I do. I think we've only lost 7 or 8 games since he has been here, which is a terrific record for a club who are only in their second year back in the prem. Bit more positivity is needed chaps!

 

This! For heavens sake we're still unbeaten this season and we've been using a makeshift left back! Our defense has enormously improved, I don't remember the last time I was this confident about a Newcastle defense. People thought we'd be screwed when we got rid of Enrique but that isnt the case. Pardew needs to improve, but he has already improved since he first arrived and I don't see why he won't continue to.

 

I shall now ignore everything you post on this website from now on.

As soon as you said delusion, I stopped reading. Would rather be ignorant, than have my mind blown by your pessimistic blabber. Literally ignorance is bliss.

 

THIS! 1000% Spot-****ing-on! Something needs to be done!

 

This. For everyone who is optimistic or even just is happy they are branded deluded by people who are unhappy with 8 points from 4, 3 clean sheets and 4th place.