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Alan Pardew is he for real?

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Rafa's Championship Party, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. Rafa's Championship Party

    Rafa's Championship Party Well-Known Member

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  2. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    He's a classless bum.
    When he starts imploding he plays the blame game. Remember the bullshit bingo we all played when we was with us?
    He has nice hair and wears specs well... and has a colgate smile though so he's not all bad.
     
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  3. Lord Jonjomort

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    I must confess to secretly loving this. He's shown up for what he is - a talentless chancer who relies massively on the individual contributions of key players and, depending who he has in the squad, occasionally gets lucky. Cabaye/Bolasie got him to mid-table, Cabaye/Ba/Cisse/Ben Arfa got him 5th with us. More or less everything else has been a shambles. Feels to me like, culturally, he cannot create a professional environment. There's little to no repercussions for failure under Pardew, he never changes things around, tries something else, makes big calls. How many times did he persevere with Gouff, Obertan or Colo for that matter, in spite of huge failings on the pitch? We'd get tanked 6-0 at home off Liverpool and make one change the following match!!!
     
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  4. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Is there any irony in this? "We haven't had a player sent off against for two years" what, you mean since Pardew left?

    I can;t stand Pardew by the way - think they'll get relegated next season as he's done exactly with them what he did with every other club he's ever managed - FFS he signed Connor Wickham for £9m ish - one goal this season!! That's worse than signing Jack Rodwell! At least everyone thought Rodwell would be decent!
     
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  5. Blacker-than-Knight

    Blacker-than-Knight Slainte

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    Doesn't any manager rely on the abilities of key players, Tufty without a capable striker is a relegation manager as for all the huff and puff of the rest of the team it is all pointless without a striker who can score, Leicester without Vardy and Mahrez would be a hard working team but not at the top of the PL, Spurs without Kane or Alli wouldn't be in the top 4, if Cantona hadn't joined Man Utd we would have won the PL in the season we were ahead, he scored I think 7 goals in 7 matches that they won 1-0 to catch us and win the PL, he was the difference. As for changing things around Tufty has had more money spent in his time than Pards had in years, Pards had his best players sold out from under him as well, it's not all one way and the blinkered attitude is wrong, Tufty has been backed massively in this window and now has to produce, he hasn't been able to get Mitrovic to work so we better hope that Doomboy can hit the ground running or we will be down.
     
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    Blacker-than-Knight Slainte

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    And it's all rosie with Big Sam is it?
     
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  7. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    He is bang on the money as usual. Total conspiracy. He's a legend and a top class manager.
     
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  8. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Yet he is still outdoing McClaren having spent a fraction of the money...and did so here too
     
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  9. It's_all_Greek_to_me

    It's_all_Greek_to_me Well-Known Member

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    He's a **** manager.

    West Ham, Charlton, Newcastle and now a lot of Crystal Palace fans can testify to that. They can potentially drop to 16th at the weekend I believe. Should that happen, the blame game will escalate. I don't have a problem with Crystal Palace or their fans, but I would love to see them drop into the relegation zone just to destroy this myth that
    (a) Pardew is a good manager - He isn't
    (b) That he was hard done by here by having no say in transfers and having no money to spend. Bollocks. He was lucky to hold on for as long as he did. Primarily because of his mate Derek Llambias.

    He's spent £9 million on Conor Whickham and signed the king of mercenaries - Adebayor. His judgement is shocking and the pressure is starting to get to him. As at Newcastle, when things don't go his way it's everyone else's fault. He blamed Hennessey two weeks running ffs. Completely unprofessional. He destroys team morale at every club he visits . The difference being though, that should Palace continue to struggle, they will have the sense to sack him and we will hopefully never see that chancer anywhere near the top flight again.
     
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  10. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    No problems at all with sam thanks - why do you ask that question?
     
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  11. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Absolutely agree with every word - which is why I wish he was still at your place!!! :)
     
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  12. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Fixed for you fella <laugh>

    Still occupying the thoughts of loads of our supporters, its almost like they were desperately waiting for a bad run
     
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  13. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I tell you what mind, McClaren talks utter ****e - McClaren explained: “I’ve been talking with (managing director) Lee (Charnley) a lot about this homegrown rule that is going to feature heavily, which is why the top clubs are buying young English players, but they cost double what foreign players do."

    No they don't Steve its a complete fallacy generated by clubs who want to make excuses for going to buy 2nd and 3rd rate foreign players who fail miserably.

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spor...s/newcastle-uniteds-80m-season-spend-10827348

    That one just scares the **** out of me but then I laugh. He really believes he'll be getting more money? If we go down you won't be here gingernuts.
     
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  14. It's_all_Greek_to_me

    It's_all_Greek_to_me Well-Known Member

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    I've always thought that there was a fallacy about English players myself. The top ones, yes you pay a premium. People say Townsend was expensive - He's an England international so there was always going to be a premium. Jordan Rhodes - He's a goalscorer and you will always pay top dollar for those. Basically, this belief that English players cost a fortune is generated by impatient clubs who do **** all to support the grass roots game. The reason why the England football team is **** these days is because players who would have previously been regulars in the old first division/ early PL era cannot get games at the very top so are forced to player in the lower leagues. Those that play in the PL are either reserves for their sides or overrated donkeys that play for one of the top clubs. Because of where they play, it is automatically assumed that they are the best this country has. There are literally loads of talented English players playing in the Championship, Leagues One and Two and dare I say Non-League football. The PL clubs [including Newcastle and Sunderland] simply refuse to scout them though because they are not deemed value for money and are judged as not being good enough because of where they play. Typical example - Jordan Rhodes. Because he has never played in the PL it is assumed by fans that he isn't good enough. What an absolute load of bollocks. He will score goals in the top flight next season when Boro come up.
     
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  15. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Deli Alli - 5m
    John Stones - 2.5m
    Austin - 4m
    Ramsay - 5m

    The list is endless. Its bollocks and a feeble excuse for poor work. Its like when Nev blames others for his miscounting in the prediction game.
     
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  16. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Franny Jeffers - £10m
    David Bentkey - £17m
    Phil Jones - £16m
    Jordan Henderson £20m
    Milner - £26m?
    Downing - £20m
    Carroll - £35m
    Bent £24m
    Lescott £22m
    Sterling <yikes>

    There's been some staggering prices for English players mind.
     
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  17. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    Mostly England internationals at the time they were signed. Most not that good either. Just because they are/ were PL players though they commanded big fees.
     
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  18. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Essentially though that has been 4 or 5 really cash rich clubs just going stir crazy. I mean Liverpool account for 3 (American money), Man C 3 (Dubai money), Spurs 2. I can probably name just as many foreign flops either in England or abroad. Denilson? Torres? Benteke? Shevchenko? Mangala? Illarramendi? David Luiz? People overpay for foreigners too. Honestly its a complete fallacy disproven all the time. We bought bloody Marcelino, Goma and Boumsong for a combined total of 19m in the early 2000's!! I could get British pair Scott Dann and James Collins for less now and they'd be ten times the players <laugh>
     
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  19. It's_all_Greek_to_me

    It's_all_Greek_to_me Well-Known Member

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    Players that came from Non-league football.....Waddle, Pearce, Wright, Nigel Martin, Les Ferdinand, Vardy, Austin, Kevin Phillips, John Barnes to name a few. You wouldn't see many PL teams take that chance these days.
     
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  20. Hugh Briss

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    Alan Pardew is a decent PL Manager.

    He's been around long enough to have established himself as exactly that, but no more.

    I don't believe he will ever get one of the 'top' jobs because he bottles it at a certain point.

    As others have mentioned, he looks to blame anyone and everyone when things don't go his way.

    A severe lack of goals have ruined Palace's season and that's because the strikers aren't good enough.

    He bemoaned a "trouble-maker" like Hatem Ben Arfa in his NUFC squad, yet he has just signed Adebayor!!!
     
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