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Ah, So it's Antenucci's Fault!

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  1. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    Redders has dropped to a new low. Apparently Mirco Antenucci is the new Tom Lees!

    This is the man who plays Antenucci up front, on his own - a role he's not famed for. Why bother about his other skils, let's make him do something he can't do! And then kick him for it if we get beaten.Then he decides to go 4-4-2, which Antenucci is ideal for, but whips him off & replaces him with a lump suited to 4-5-1 (actually not, but useless in any other formation!), plus another failed striker. And this is the Italian's fault????? Suppose he scored both goals for Cardiff too?

    http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015...manager-redfearn-fires-warning-to-striker-m/?

    Neil Redfearn was less than impressed with Mirco Antenucci's display against Cardiff City.


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    Leeds United manager Neil Redfearn has told BBC West Yorkshire that he wants more from striker Mirco Antenucci after the 2-1 home defeat to Cardiff City.

    The Whites have now lost three games in a row after this afternoon's latest loss, following on from 3-0 and 4-3 defeats to Blackburn Rovers and Wolverhampton Wanderers.

    Today, it was Cardiff who left Leeds empty handed, as Sean Morrison gave the Bluebirds the lead before Kalvin Phillips struck a goal on his Elland Road debut for Leeds to equalise - only for Aron Gunnarsson to win the game for Cardiff on the hour mark.

    Manager Neil Redfearn was obviously frustrated with the result after the full-time whistle, and told BBC Radio West Yorkshire that he needs better, more rounded displays from Italian striker Antenucci.

    "You're looking for more off Mirco," said Redfearn. "It's alright saying that he can't play that lone striker role, but that's the system we're playing. He's got to find it, he's got to go and find it within himself. He's got to do more, the ball has got to stick when it goes into him, he's got to get his body in the way."

    "He's going to get kicked and he's got to be brave. These are aspects that he's got to get in his game if he's going to be a top striker," he added.

    Antenucci, 30, arrived at Elland Road from Ternana last summer, and despite being in-and-out of the side recently, he remains the club's top scorer this season with 10 goals.

    At 5ft 10in, aerial prowess and strength are not Antenucci's best qualities, but Redfearn is left with a dearth of consistent centre forwards who can fill that lone role.

    Steve Morison battled well during his run in the team, but isn't a goalscorer, whilst Souleymane Doukara and Billy Sharp have been reduced to bit-part roles.

    For now, Antenucci looks likely to remain in the centre forward role - but this warning from Redfearn is a clear sign that he must improve many different aspects of his game in order to keep his place.
     
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  2. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Redfearn is a complete knob. Got lucky with some decent kids that fell into his lap.. Sick of hearing redfearn said bullshit and blame shifting. If cellino wasn't such a cock Redfearn would have gone instead of ST.

    We need a new owner and a new manager, then we need 8 decent new signings that include two or three wide men.
     
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  3. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    We might not need any wingers - we've got 3 that have never been tested - Montenegro, Adryan & Walters. Suppose that's Antenucci's fault too? <doh>
     
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    I would like to see Montenegro out wide, but I feel something must be missing if he's been ignored by three successive managers... I don't think Adryan will ever make it, I think he's destined to be another of those Brazilian 'wonderkids' who couldn't deal with the pressure (and to be fair to him, from what I've read he was dubbed the new Zico before he'd even played a professional game... that's pressure!) I would love to be proven wrong but he looked lightweight and disinterested with very little end product to his game.
    Walters needs to prove himself in the U21s again first - I'm all for giving youth players a chance but if Walters plays for the senior team before Montenegro does it'll be hard to excuse Redfearn, even if Walters scores a hat-trick.

    I feel for Redfearn a little bit in the Antenucci situation - clearly he knows Ant doesn't suit the lone striker role, but he also knows the only player who does can't score a goal for his life. He has Cani, who evidently doesn't seem up to much, and then another two in Doukara and Sharp, neither of whom have been particularly prolific or fit a lone striker role. He's choosing the best striker he has available to him, but if he's going to do that he has to play to Ant's strengths. It's definitely wrong of Redders to single Ant out for criticism when he's playing a role he's not really capable of when he's the one who picked him to play there.
    It does go back to a point I've made many times: the squad is unbalanced, and it's always going to be difficult to play a formation or style that deviates from the diamond, because that is the only formation the squad suits.
     
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  5. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    He's spreading the blame now. Not sure what Silvestri was supposed to do to stop their goals, having watched it again on the tv. And of course, the kids were brilliant (not that I noticed, btw!).

    http://www.insidefutbol.com/2015/04...-at-leeds-goalkeeper-marco-silvestri/200968/?

    Leeds United head coach Neil Redfearn is displeased with his side's defensive performance in their 2-1 defeat to Cardiff City earlier today.

    Redfearn dubbed his side's performance "unacceptable" post match, feeling they were well below par in their home loss to the Bluebirds. The head coach felt that desire and urgency was missing from his side's game and especially laid the blame at the door of his senior professionals.

    The former midfielder came down particularly harshly on goalkeeper Marco Silvestri, along with centre-back pairing Giuseppe Bellusci and Sol Bamba. And he largely absolved Leeds' youngsters of blame, saying the performances of his senior professionals was the most concerning aspect of the afternoon.

    "I was more concerned with the seniors today than the youngsters. The youngsters are going to make mistakes, run with it and get caught with it, but you expect your seniors to do the right things", Redfearn explained toBBC Radio Leeds.

    "I look at our two centre-backs who have been a big feature of this run – they've been good, kept clean sheets and worked hard – and today they were all at sea.

    "I thought we made bad decisions, we had poor back-passes that they could have scored from, we got caught on the ball. We just didn't defend well. We've got to get those bits right.

    "I thought the goalkeeper needed to command his box more.

    "If it was me in goal I'd have got my back four up the pitch and made them defend.

    "We were trying to fiddle and play out when it's not on to play. Little basic things. We've got to get that team mentality back", Redfearn added.

    Leeds will aim to quickly bounce back and end their run of three successive defeats when second placed Norwich City come to town on Tuesday evening. The Canaries are chasing promotion to the Premier League, while Leeds sit 15th with 52 points from 42 games
     
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    I love it when me and chippy are on same page......gis a cuddle Chippy....<hug>
     
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    Redders blames everyone and everything except his academy boys, favourites and of course himself. He blames the seniors, makes excuses for the kids and favourites and of course won't shoulder any blame or responsibility. All Redders does is make excuses to try and justify his decisions, team selection and so called tactics, Redders is selling Redders.

    Totally agree with your comments WJ, as you said, he brings Anti off then puts two other strikers on, the wandering nomad and his donkey, reverting to a 4-4-2 formation that suits Anti.

    Thing is, Anti and Duke were getting the service from the likes of Adryan and Bianchi in midfield and scoring goals, that impact has been took away by Redders, as has the ability to score multiple goals; now, none of the strikers are getting it. I stand by what I say in that our biggest problems are in midfield.

    Was our problems with the diamond not working because of the players, or Redders himself?. Before Thommo arrived Redders was clueless, after Thommo left Redders is still clueless.

    The change of formation, was it really what saved us from continually sitting in relegation zone, or was it Redders who kept us down there? given the results after Thommo left, the finger is certainly pointing Redders way.

    Thommo brought something to the team, or were we lucky that lady luck was our 12th man? it'll be a case of individual perception but, in all honesty the football itself didn't improve that much, lady luck was playing a lot better.

    Our defence seemed to have much more pressure put on them by a lack lustre midfield, a 5 man midfield that is, requiring them to be much more solid as a unit enabling them to soak up the continual barrage of flak from opposing strikers and midfield, and for the majority of games they did a bloody good job. I did mention not so long ago that eventually, because of our midfield allowing opposing teams to run through us our defence would eventually crack, and it has.

    Even though the likes of Wootton and Bambi had a bad game, I'm reluctant to lay a ton of blame on the defence like Redders did; it was inevitable that one day cracks would appear because of the continual bombardment from opposing teams; any solid defence can only soak up so much unneeded and unwarranted continual pressure every game before buckling; even the Dambusters had to have several cracks at the dams before they cracked'em open.

    Redders obsession with the academy boys and favourites, and his bias towards certain Cellino signings has, amongst other flaws been detrimental to the team and performances.

    Redders false facade has come back to haunt him imo.
     
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    Thompson has been gone just over a week and the players have forgot what he showed/taught them on the training grond already? I don't think so, I too want Redders replaced but I accept Cellino is also to blame. I think you are in for a shock when the next guy comes in and we do no better. The quality Cellino has signed for this division is simply not good enough...

    Bamba is a decent defender but it is the same every time a new defender comes in, we sneak a couple of results, the new guy gets heaps of praise and a few games later one poor performance leads to another and another and suddenly they look ordinary.

    Redfearn is an academy coach, he is used to teaching the younger players, he speaks they listen, they don't question and they back him 100% - Redfearn was not ready to step up and take charge of a team full of new continental players, most of us knew that, Cellino ignored the obvious so the blame lies at Cellinos feet.

    Cellino the guy who undermines cheap coaches, the guy who signs cheap players from abroad and the guy who signs us far too many loan players with no intention of keeping any.
     
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    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    <doh><hug>

    If you just kept remembering that cellino was a cock and Redfearn is a blame shifting clueless buffoon we would always be on the same page.

    Can someone just remind us how marginal our improvement is in terms of points compared to this stage last year. I am l less convinced than ever that we are any further forward at all as a team than compared to any point in the last three years. Wonder kids and looking better on the eye my arse! Those who are not seeing it need to wake up, we will be in a relegation scrap next year unless something new happens in the next six weeks. Owner/ manager / philosophy are all in need of complete change.

    I would suggest that this seasons bottom four are the worst in living memory any every team above them should have 6-10 points more than those in the same positions last year.
     
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    I still believe that what we offer this year is potential, & hope for the future. But Redders is doing his bst to mess it up. Get Strachan in, and the world is our oyster.
     
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    I would love someone like Strachan to come in for the last few games just to see which players he picked on the last game of the season, which players would impress him enough between now and then how many of the young promising academy players would actually make the starting 11 - The only way of attracting someone like Strachan would be for Cellino to sell to Red Bull
     
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    We don't agree on Cellino Chippy, but we do in regards to Redders, come here, gis another cuddle....<hug>
     
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    Redders is stubborn ... play Adryan for ten games and see the difference ... problem is Redders no doubt feels that Adryan, Monty and others, given a proper run, will keep "his" kids out which means he can't take extra credit for any success ... Redders is a fool, and must not get a new contract ... if he fcuks off to another club then so be it, but he's definitely not a manager


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    <yikes><yikes><yikes><yikes><yikes><yikes><yikes>
     
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    Don't worry I have plenty to go round, always keep one up my sleeve for you, you silly old sod.
     
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    :biggrin: I was feeling a bit left out........:emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    What bit does he usually leave left in? <whistle>
     
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    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS........I need ov 1.5 goals in the queer pansy rangers chelsea london scum cheating **** holes match, to win my bet...........the london clubs corrupt....:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Until you come to your senses you will have to make do with a brief hand shake. Cuddles require total agreement.
    :emoticon-0173-middl:emoticon-0150-hands
     
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