Apart from maybe Theo Walcott, I do not think a player divides opinions as much as Ramsey does. Some think he is a complete dud and has no future at the club and should be sold as soon as we get the chance, while some others think he has a great future and is part of ours, alongside the likes of Wilshere,Jenkinson and Chamberlain. After the Bradford debacle, I personally had enough of Ramsey, because that was one horrendous performance and I thought that was the final straw for me. But after his recent stint in the first team, I might have to reassess my views on him. The one thing he does that nobody can take away from him is the fact that he works hard and is ready to give it his all for the team. I am starting to think that he can be a great squad player for us, because he does not complain when he is not in the team and when he does get his chance he does work hard and can do a job. Sadly, after that injury, I just do not think he can become a great player. Before the injury, he was very two footed and could shoot with either feet, but now he has completely lost the ability to even shoot properly with his strongest foot. I look at players like James Milner, Darren Fletcher and Seydou Keita and think maybe Ramsey can be that sort of player for us. A squad player who does a job when required and can help if want to play a more defensive game.
Well, I can only agree with that. My thoughts exactly. In recent games we have raved about Kosc/Merte but I would give as much credit to Arteta/Ramsey for controlling the midfield. They could be forming a very good partnership there.
Yah maybe like a squad player but I rather have squad players who are particularly good at something - so a strong tackler (frimpong), a big presence (diaby) etc The reason is that if a game is going a certain way then when it is 20-30min left you can throw in an "expert" to either close the game or open the game. Ramsey for me is not really bad at anything but he doesnt seem to excel at something - maybe his work rate?
He's improved dramatically recently. Less pressure on him has really helped. If he can kick on from this with a good season next year I think he'll be back on track to actually be a really good player. His slightly deeper role seems to suit him. He's more of a CM than an AM and he's been slated for not being creative enough, but perhaps his future lies away from this role?
Took him a good 2 years to get back from that injury, but still not the player he was before. His work rate is probably the best at the club and he's slowly rediscovering how to go forward (after a short period of Denilsonesque backward passing). I like Ramsey and want him to succeed. There is a genuine chance it will click back into place (form not his leg) eventually and when it does we will have a midfield to fear with Ramsey, Wilshere, Cazorla and a new DM we haven't bought yet.
It's also remarkable how he has managed not to pick other injuries after the leg break. Normally players tend to pick other small injuries after a long term injury, but Ramsey has managed to stayed fit.
Very true SJW. He's done remarkably well. I do see a good future for him, though it might be the wine & beer talking...
'He works hard and doesn't seem to pick up niggly injuries'. Hardly the attributes of a first class player & we can't start carrying more dead wood after spending the last few years screaming for the club to off load such players. Look at the Manure, Citeh, Chav midfields and ask yourself whether you think he could get into their teams. I think not. He seems a nice lad and I am sorry that he got hurt, but he will never be good enough for a team that wants to sit on top of the EPL & CL.
There's no such thing as a poor man's Ray Parlour, great as he was. Ramsey has got something sitting underneath. I can see it, and I think others are beginning to see it too.
Man Utd have Anderson in their squad. City have Rodwell. Chelsea have Romeu. Are you one of those fans that think Arsenal are going to buy world class midfielders and stick them on the bench for squad depth?
I'm thinking Ramsey is finally back on track. He took 2 years to fully get over that tackle by Shawcross but he is starting to develope into the player we all thought he could be.
One of the biggest problems about football in England is that the fans know very little about the technical side of the game. It is easy for them to appreciate a Ronaldo or a Messi who score goals and create goals, and big strong defenders who make strong tackles. It is much harder to get them to appreciate a Pirlo or a Xavi who make a lot of "easy" passes, don't dribble a lot or do very much that is spectacular, and do a lot of covering and moving without the ball. It is almost impossible to get them to see these players as they develop and are not at the Pirlo or Xavi level yet. It is very difficult to find players like this in Britain. Parker, Milner and Barry would seem to be this sort, but from a technical point of view they are more like headless chickens than a true maestro. Frank Lampard is the closest thing we have to this kind of player, but his ability to show up and score goals as well, overshadowed his ability to win games in a deeper role without scoring. Ramsey is a far better player than people realise. He provides a "safety valve" for players to escape the press and is very often running to create space for other players, not in the goal area always, but as we move it through a congested midfield. He is also very strong defensively, when Arteta, and Cazorla are not. I would sell Cazorla before I sold Ramsey right now, although I would not want to sell either of them. This guy is going to be as important to the team as Wilshere is. The fact that he can even cover very respectably at RB when required, just makes him more valuable. Sorry, but I'm a big fan of chap. He gets on with his work, and does all the donkey work, running back to slow down the other team's attacks 3/4 of the way through the game when everyone else is dragging their feet. Not everyone in a team can be a flashy expansive player, and be scoring goals, you need someone to do the fetching and carrying as well.
You sound like a PS3 or Apple fanboy... But for Aaron Ramsey. You're basically excusing mediocrity by saying he could end up like Xavi or Pirlo. There's been no evidence that he will. Not that I hate the guy... He's looked moderately useful lately... But I can't see him ever being any better than players like Phil Neville or Kevin Nolan
You're describing Arteta there, not Ramsey. Ramsey gives it away needlessly, Arteta is our engine. Ramsey has work ethic, but no skill.
Pirlo does plenty that is spectacular.. and that's usually his LONG passes, not his short ones. So I'm confused by the whole post tbh. Though Arteta is more similar to Pirlo than Xavi, he is most similar to Alonso. The most common ball Arteta plays is a long ball out wide. Ramsey may be more like Xavi in style, but not quality. It's hopeful to think he'll get anywhere close to that quality, but it's not completely impossible.
I would say 'not enough skill' and agree about his work ethic. The problem is that Ramsey suffers a brain freeze whenever he gets within 5 yards of the opposing penalty box. He invariably breaks down our forward momentum by dithering & dwelling on the ball while trying to think what to do next, eventually making the wrong pass or allowing himself to be dispossessed. As for this condescending crap - go do one you arrogant berk!
Young player, coming back from a horrendous injury and improving all the time. It remains to be seen if he can take it up a notch further, but I think he's worthy of a place in our squad.
