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  1. devonFRATTONiser

    devonFRATTONiser Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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  2. acpompey

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    No not a step in the right direction, the guy is a self promoting clown, and while I admire the trust there is no way they represent the future of the club, for me it is either credible new owners or start again with AFC Portsmouth
     
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  3. frattonfunkdaddy

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    I fear you have a point acpompey. This guy has lost all credibility with his ludicrous statements over the past few weeks. AA has been no help to fans whatsoever with his comments either. First he says the club will be sold within hours but keeping the prospective owners anonymous-but hinting Cala- then rubbishing the guy as an attention seeker when it went tits up.
     
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  4. frattonfunkdaddy

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    The club needs money. All the council are doing is what they always do as long as it does'nt involve taxpayers money with a few nice soundbites from councillors jumping on the voters bandwagon. The trust people are well meaning but ultimately powerless. It's a lot of cash that is going to be the remedy here-and nothing else.
     
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  5. Leading Fish in Hants

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    I'm coming to the conclusion that it's time to take my beloved pet to the vet for the final time. Maybe we'll get a new puppy but I don't have the heart at the moment.
     
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  6. JMMP

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    But the Portsmouth Supporters Trust met with local businesses on Thursday in an attempt to form a consortium to help save the Championship club.
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    Local businesses again after only paying them 20 percent of hat you owe them ? Disgusting if you ask me.
     
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  7. 3rd eye

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    The thing is - nobody did ask you.
     
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    I fear that we are in a worse position than we were when we were going into admin. Cala is a complete idiot, him taking over will just prolong the agony for another 4 or 5 months - I give him no longer than that.

    I don't see any credible plan coming out of this consortium of business leaders and fans - the council just want to be where the action is and make soothing noises. The Trust's mission is to get representation on the board. If the business leaders had the money and the will to own the club they would have made moves already.

    It seems to me that the only credible way forward is for Chanrai to step back in, lower his asking price, support the club on a temporary basis eg. 12 months, and for the fans to build a workable rescue plan, which would include raising funds to purchase the land, stadium and club. Chanrai may have to wait for all his money but that's the price to pay for greed coupled with stupidity.

    With a bit of time, which at the moment we don't have on our side, it needs a very radical plan to be devised. eg. an organisation/trust set up to sell shares to interested parties to raise the funds might possibly be a way forward - search out the possiblity of grants and get investment from a number of businessmen. It seems to be such a big hurdle that I don't think anyone could go for something so big.

    How many of you are going to tell me that I'm nuts?
     
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  9. JMMP

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    Maybe not but the taxpayer should have a say and the majority of people want this financial joke you turn out in low numbers to support finished.
     
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  10. 3rd eye

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    We all know what you think. You repeat it over and over. Can't you just buzz off back to your own board?
     
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    Never said that I think that. All I want is the same to be applied to pompey as was southampton, leeds and bournmouth.
     
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  12. Wooperts_duck

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    What on earth are you talking about, you dozy nerk - we are a football club, not a milliner, so why would we be paying anyone in headwear for goodness sake <doh>
     
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  13. MAJR

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    Can't you give it a rest for one minute?!

    Yes, the local businesses lost money when Pompey first went into administration first time and only get a bit back but they have made far more through their connection to the club and the people that come into the city during match days over the years than they lost. They recognize that Pompey are an important part in bringing business to the city and to lose that would be a serious blow to them.

    And I fail to see what "disgusting" about local businesses rallying round in an attempt to save the club. The club haven't asked them to do this, its something they've done because they think it's in the best interest of the city.
     
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  14. Saint Possum

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    Why not sell your top best players which will reduce large over heads and pay off Tax man and any other bills, employ a few players from lower leagues on very low wage, Pompey fans sell programs and man the turnstiles for free entrance, local business to help support program cost and any other small business costs, and get free advertising for it,
    Then maybe the council will see they have to step in and buy the ground and rent at minimum cost.
    Sacrifice is relegation but plus is hopefully a club you love to still to support.
    I know pie in the sky and no Ricky Lamb jokes please.
     
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    The anguish of all true pompey fans in totally understandable & they truly have the sympathy of all genuine football fans. As to be expected, the whole debate is generating more heat than light. The harsh facts are (a) HMCR are not going to give pompey any comfort whatever - reading the statements from the minister responsible for HMCR in the Telegraph yesterday, they intend getting much harder with those who do not pay taxes, particularly at a time when the country,s finances are under extreme duress (b) Portsmouth City Council will make all the right noises but they are not going to take any financial risks to aid the club - in a city with many problems with jobs etc they cannot be seen to risk taxpayers money (c) Does anyone seriously believe that Cala is going to end up buying the club - the man is a total nutter & surely even the doughnuts at the football league will see this (D) The football trust, together with local businesses, clearly want to help, but unless they can put a load of money (many millions) on the table then it is only words.
    I realise my words are no comfort whatever - I.m sorry guys, but that,s the way it is
     
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  16. MAJR

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    All that's fine and probably a fair assessment but The ultimate optimist post wasn't. It was a dissmissive statement calling the actions of the local businesses disgusting because they want to try to save the club. There was no need for that kind of rubbish. He was totally out of order.
     
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  17. JMMP

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    No you have ripped people off and are continuing to get away with. 20p in the pound my arse.
     
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  18. 3rd eye

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    Do you think that might mean no more "sweetheart deals" for the likes of Goldman Sachs and Vodafone?
     
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  19. MAJR

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    Which is still bullcrap.

    First and foremost I haven't ripped off anyone. I am just a fan of Pompey, I do no own the club, I do not work for the club, I have no say whatsoever in how it is run or in who owns it. Nor, indeed, do I work for an administrator who worked out the CVA or have any say in what that CVA agreement was.

    Secondly, Portsmouth FC never turned to the local businesses and said "bail us out." the local businesses got together with supporters groups and local politicians to discuss the options available and whether it was possible that they could form a consortium to buy some stake in the club. Portsmouth football club had nothing to do with that meeting expect being the subject discussed.

    There is nothing whatsoever that is "disgusting" about fans of different walks of life meeting to discuss the plight of their football club and to consider any way that they could help improve that situation beyond just buying tickets and merchandise. There is nothing "disgusting" about the fans of a club wanting to ensure its survival and have some stake in the business and some say in how it is run.

    Portsmouth FC have asked nothing of the local businesses. Calling the club "disgusting" because supporters groups, politicans, local press and local businesses met independently of it with no official contact with the club at all to discuss the situation is a ridiculous accusation.
     
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  20. Itchen Masack

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    Has any of the 20p in the pound actually been paid yet? To me the situation seems like Chanrai will put the club back into admin to keep it alive long enough, what does he care if you lose points? As long as the club is still there to recieve the next parachute payment, he, as a footballing creditor, will get first pickings.

    I may well be entirely wrong, but is Chanrai now the effective owner AND a creditor of Pompey, who has already defaulted the deeds to Fratton Park...to himself before they went into admin the first time?

    Forgive me for asking this, I'm a Saints fan, but i dont wish to see pompey go under and the whole situation has me confused!
     
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