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A sobering view of the sad world we have become

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  1. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    John Maguire
    May27at6:38AM ·
    Lighting up public memorials, like a cenotaph, to remember the death of George Floyd, a foreign criminal, is an abomination, end of story. The world has gone mad. There are real heroes in THIS country's recent history who were basically ignored at the time and have not been remembered since, I'll start with this one.
    REMEMBER THIS MAN'S NAME. Police Constable Keith Blakelock, brutally murdered policing the riots on the Broadwater Farm Estate in North London back in 1985. This is from Wiki and shows the absolute depravity, hatred and sheer barbarism of the rioters; they basically kicked and hacked the man to death with knives and machetes. Oh, and go and see the justice PC Blacklock got. ZERO! No lighting up of memorials for him, no bleeding-heart liberals taking a knee for him, no agenda-driven media remembering him. Shame on every council and civic leader attempting to portray a foreign criminal as a martyr of significance in this country.
    'The rioters removed Blakelock's protective helmet, which was never found. The pathologist, David Bowen, found 54 holes in Blakelock's overalls, and 40 stabbing or slashing injuries, eight of them to his head, caused by a weapon such as a machete, axe or sword. A six-inch-long knife was buried in his neck up to the hilt. His body was covered in marks from having been kicked or stamped on. His hands and arms were badly cut, and he had lost several fingers trying to defend himself. There were 14 stab wounds on his back, one on the back of his right thigh, and six on his face. Stabbing injuries to his armpits had penetrated his lungs. His head had been turned to one side and his jawbone smashed by a blow that left a six-inch gash across the right side of his head. Bowen said the force of this blow had been "almost as if to sever his head", which gave rise to the view that an attempt had been made to decapitate him.'
    You clowns insult not only the memory of real heroes, but you insult the intelligence of every normal law-abiding person in this country with your virtue-signalling, woke, nonsensical bile
     
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  2. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    I'm totally with you on this one jiffie because like you I have become sick and tired of hearing the bleating coming from the supposed under dogs who are in fact guilty themselves of pretty horrendous crimes against others. Just look around another certain continent and hear about the daily brutal murders of innocent people, including school children, and whether we like to admit or not that savagery has never truly left their thought processes. I have made it a routine that I refuse to watch the sickening part of a football match to avoid seeing the knee jerk protest that is supposed to get our conscience feeling guilty when it isn't us perpetrating this violence. Just look back to the Lee Rigby atrocity and tell me that the problem still is ours and that we are the ones who should be apologizing for our sins?

    The same problems exist around the world where ethic integration has been tried, and failed at virtually every step of the way, and I can see absolutely no way the problem can ever be solved when the crowd that inflict this violence expect to come out the other end with our apologies. Doesn't work in my world.
     
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    While I agree that some statues should be taken down (in a controlled way), that certainly does not apply to PC Blakelock's
     
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    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    This has nothing to do about statues. This is about the fact that George Floyd a drug fuelled career criminal is still being venerated around the world with events like described in the piece that I put up and that will continue for a long time. In 2017 in the UK close to the anniversary of George Floyd's death 23 mainly young people were mercilessly murdered and close to 1,000 people were injured at a concert in Manchester, were they honoured around the country on that anniversary? absolutely not.

    As for statues, not a single statue should be taken down, they are part of our history and history is about the good and bad things that happened. Where do we draw the line? should we pull down the Manchester Guardian newspaper building? after all it was founded on the back of the slave trade, they vilified Abraham Lincoln and his stance on slavery. How about churches? after all they were involved in many of the worst atrocities in history, including modern day sexual abuse.
     
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    You only have to read about the catholic church's involvement in the recently announced discovery of 215 bodies in a mass unmarked grave at the Kamloops Indian School to know that atrocities have been carried out under the auspices of a higher authority. On my way home from a medical appointment less than an hour ago there were 215 pairs of red shoes hanging on the wall of a local government building to show solidarity.

    Regrettably the same applies to MMIW ( Murdered and Missing Indigenous Women) when it comes down to the public awareness and interest and it will take more than campaigns to ever change the dynamics of MMIW and Black Lives Matter until someone steps out of the wilderness with a magic wand. The residential school progamme is the driving factor behind MMIW because so many who endured the mistreatment at those schools have never been able to face life as we know it to be. Top level government ministers were responsible for the problems, and indeed encouraged them, and because of their stupidity statues are coming down all over the place destroying our history whether we like it or not.
     
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    It's a disgrace in the so called civilised world that scum like George Floyd is venerated, while other local heroes, like Edward Colston IMHO, have their statues ripped down by the anti establishment unwashed hoards.

    Quite right. No statue, anywhere should be taken down and any that have been should be returned to their plinths.
    But it's America that is leading on this pathetic stance. Under Donald Trump, as I put on another thread, it was to be a punishable offence to damage ANY statue in America and any right minded person would think the same.
    But no, the 2 faced Kamala Harris who is clearly pulling the strings of dozy Joe Biden and under the 'free thinking' and 'liberal' Democrats, that rule has been overturned and will not become law. They have also made the White House gender neutral so there are no name tags or office plaques saying Mr or Mrs or even Ms.
    They are literally asking for civil war and that is the way it's headed at a rate of knots. Every week in Chicago there are dozens of black on black killings. Does this make national or international news ? No, because it's what black gang culture is all about, and to a lesser degree it's heading the same way here. The numbers aren't as big, but the possibilities are.
     
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    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    And for Chicago in the UK's case substitute with Khan's London.
     
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    Sadly I'm afraid to say that my youngest daughter is very supportive of all this wokeness - to the point where she bursts into tears and throws a hissy fit if we even try to talk calmly about it - so we've stopped talking about it now.
    The world - but our country in particular - is under attack from within and nobody is doing anything about it in case they are labelled as racist.
    I can't wait to move to Gib - they fly the Union Jack flag with pride over there and love everything that the UK USED to stand for.
     
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    R&W
    My daughter is exactly the same and me Mrs R never get into 'that' conversation.
    She's never forgotten, from at least 15 years ago, using my phone to order a takeaway. She was dumbstruck that I had the number as 'Chinky'.
    Back then and before for my generation it was a term of almost endearment, I'd be terrified if I spoke that word today.
     
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    I don't think Asians take as much offence as the blacks do but that's because they think they're entitled
     
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    Something else which I also now take exception to, is how the likes of Sky and other commercial channels now show more and more black actors in commercials and have adapted the content to suit the group.
    I fully accept that things had to change slightly, but as far as I am aware the black population of this country is about 3%.
    If you weren't a UK resident and watched a string of UK commercials, you would think that the majority of the population here were black.
    This isn't being racist, it's just an irritating observation and is evidence of continued and increasing pandering.
     
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    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    I blame the teachers + peer pressure again for this. I spoke to my 17 year old granddaughter about a year ago about the IRA, she had never heard of them, I sometimes wonder what these kids are taught at schools?. My first introduction into the world of Irish politics/IRA was as a 10 year old at junior school starting off learning about some of the causes that brought the IRA to fruition, I remember it like yesterday learning about gerrymandering in Northern Irish politics in the 50's and 60's and I am now 67 years old. It was not taught as a political stance by a teacher, it was taught as a history lesson.

    For me the education system is in one big mess, one of my granddaughters is finishing her 2nd degree in a subject that will never help her in the job market, it seems like it's a fashion accessory for her. At her degree ceremony 2 years ago in Exeter cathedral I was astounded at what degrees are being handed out, there is actually a degree for football coaching.
     
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    The country and the world bow to the extremists-absolute farcical what the world has become.
     
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    A football coaching or sports science degree is the equivalent of a UEFA B coaching badge. Its very difficult to gain coaching employment without either that is gainful so individuals can support themselves financially. Its easier to go down the path of the former because spaces on the UEFA B courses are limited and awarded only to those who meet a criteria.

    I agree with your wider point. I work with people with University degrees in for instance fine art. They had and have no interest in utilising their degrees. What is the point? Its University used as a jolly rather than valid vocational training.

    BBC commits £100m to increasing diversity on TV - BBC News

    The article itself, its err, its written in a manner I find cringeworthy and biased but there is a telling point within it.

    In October last year, TV presenter and campaigner June Sarpong was appointed as the BBC's director of creative diversity, as it pledged to ensure 50% of on-air roles will go to women by 2020, with targets of 15% for black, Asian and minority ethnic groups [BAME], 8% for disabled people and 8% for LGBT staff.

    The BBC as are other service providers over representing certain groups based on characteristics. A result has to be underrepresentation (less white) and tv that does not reflect society. Whether people agree or disagree we cannot withdraw our custom (the licence) by law from the BBC, a choice you do have with Sky.
     
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