1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

A simple yes or no

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Commachio, Jan 25, 2016.

?

Will we be relegated?

  1. Yes

    66.1%
  2. No

    33.9%
  1. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    92,685
    Likes Received:
    43,150
    Your feeling right now.

    Are we going down?
     
    #1
  2. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    92,685
    Likes Received:
    43,150
  3. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2012
    Messages:
    38,492
    Likes Received:
    14,978
  4. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    27,824
    Likes Received:
    30,975
    Yep! Eternally optimistic but I simply can't see us staying up
     
    #4
  5. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2012
    Messages:
    8,493
    Likes Received:
    10,460
    yes......but I thought the same for about 4 seasons now
     
    #5
    Disco down under and The Relic like this.
  6. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    27,824
    Likes Received:
    30,975
    See I haven't thought that any of the previous seasons - I always had a feeling we'd get out of it - this season my optimism has gone and I just can't see it! So we're probably doomed!
     
    #6

  7. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    Think it's a bit of a premature question. I'll answer in 6 days. Not looking good though
     
    #7
  8. SAFCDRUM

    SAFCDRUM Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    8,436
    Likes Received:
    24,067
    Yes.
    Too many other teams at the bottom picking up regular wins and we are not.
     
    #8
  9. its been fun thanks :)

    its been fun thanks :) ♬♬Badum-tish! ♬♬ Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2012
    Messages:
    4,238
    Likes Received:
    1,074
    reckon they'll be a 2 or 3 successive back to back wins and then a couple of draws coming up next and everything will look better
     
    #9
  10. farnboromackem

    farnboromackem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2011
    Messages:
    2,461
    Likes Received:
    4,201
  11. Jack TheLad

    Jack TheLad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    4,453
    Likes Received:
    2,952
    At this moment in time yes.

    Depends on whether we manage to sign some decent players who can impact our relegation fight immediately though.
     
    #11
    Brian Storm likes this.
  12. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,295
    Likes Received:
    55,496
    Predicting is tough, one team will survive, at least, that is in the bottom 3 now. Not Villa.

    You'll lose at least one more 'banker' between now and the end of the season, for sure.

    If you're cut adrift after the 3 games you've got coming up then it'll come down to size of testicles.

    For me, no, because you have a better manager and the most experience of fighting your way out of it, in that group at the bottom.
     
    #12
    Mackem-Tiz likes this.
  13. Deleted #

    Deleted # Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    20,571
    Likes Received:
    9,877
    Yes.

    Norwich, Bournemouth, Swansea and Newcastle are all a little bit better than us. Either Bournemouth or Norwich will join us and Villa.

    That's my guess anyways.

    I've thought about what our team will be like in the Championship and I'm honestly not deflated about it. We will get rid of the old guard and players like Pickford, Watmore, Gooch and Beadling, could all become important first team players, and I'm confident these are good enough to get us out of the league and handle the step up. On top of the young players we will also have Cattermole, PVA and a few others who will stay. That is the nucleus of a very strong Championship team. I also believe we have the right manager to bounce straight back up with us.
     
    #13
    Mackem-Tiz likes this.
  14. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    10,381
    Likes Received:
    32,308
    No. Been saying all season we would finish 15th, Its getting harder all the time but still feel Sam has the ability to get enough out of this squad to see us over the line once again, don't forget none of the bottom half of the league has our experience in getting out of difficult situations. I think we will pick up at least four points from our next four games, and that will give us a chance.
     
    #14
  15. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    3,505
    Likes Received:
    4,342
    I'm not so sure. I think we will keep our entire back line from the Prem because no one will want them. Catts will be off though imo, along with M'Vila, Johnno, Lens, and Defoe. Borini might jump ship also although I'm not sure anyone will want him tbh. That's a lot of players to replace, hard to guarantee we would bring in players of the calibre to be competing at the right end of the league, I'd have no faith with Ellis etc. still running the gaff.
     
    #15
    clockstander and salad fingers like this.
  16. Bexinio

    Bexinio Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,971
    Likes Received:
    670
    yes................most comments above cover why
     
    #16
  17. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,295
    Likes Received:
    55,496
    As a reference, here's the points acquired after 23 games by clubs who went on to get relegated that season.

    14/15
    QPR - 19
    HULL - 19
    BURNLEY - 20

    13/14
    CARDIFF - 18
    FULHAM - 19
    NORWICH - 24

    12/13
    READING -19
    WIGAN -19
    QPR - 15

    11/12
    WOLVES - 18
    BLACKBURN - 18
    BOLTON - 20

    10/11
    BLACKPOOL - 28
    BIRMINGHAM -23
    WEST HAM -21

    That's an average of 20 points at this stage being the most common amount of points to go down with after 23 games.

    Remove the anomalies QPR 15 and Blackpool 28 and you're left with 19.76 as the average.

    But you don't wanna know that, you wanna know how many teams have had 19 and survived in the last 5 seasons right?

    Wigan with 15 points

    West Ham with 19 points (with Sam Allardyce, 7 wins from his last 15 games against Swansea, Villa, Norwich, Southampton, Hull, Sunderland, Spurs, eventually finishing in 13th place... interestingly, not a single draw for them in the last 15).

    Leicester with 17 points... **** knows what's happened to them since.

    Since you come back up, you've never had less points at this stage of the season than you do now.
     
    #17
  18. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    3,505
    Likes Received:
    4,342
    I automatically assumed this was Bri until the last paragraph when you said "you came back up" <laugh>

    Makes for somewhat uplifting reading! Will be interesting to do a similar exercise after the next four games when we're probably still on 19....
     
    #18
  19. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,295
    Likes Received:
    55,496
    Hey you've got to play Louis Van Gaal's army, you'll be on at least 22 after that!

    I think the Allardyce stuff looks interesting, he seems to work with a win or lose system but don't dare ****ing draw. He must have wondered what the **** was going on against Bournemouth. I wonder if he knows you get a point for a draw.

    He won 4 in a row coincidentally starting on the 24th game at West Ham, against sides in and around him, if you win 4 in a row now I'll eat my arms.
     
    #19
  20. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    10,790
    Likes Received:
    4,922
    No! God knows why I've gone for No.

    Hope springs eternal.
     
    #20

Share This Page