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A Question of BALANCE!!

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by johnnywarksmoustache, Jan 27, 2012.

  1. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    I make absolutely no apology for vehmently opposing Paul Jewell as Ipswich Town Manager and I will be the first to crack open the Champers when he finally leaves. There is however the view amongst us that says he should be given time and so to balance the debate, I have seen the following article and thought it would be good to get your opinions. For me Jewell must go, nothing now will change my view but to the waverers amongst you read on and decide for yourselves!

    Success Comes To Those Who Wait
    Fri 27th Jan 2012 16:56

    Not wishing to be overly hypothetical, I wonder where Ipswich Town Football Club be right now had Marcus Evans decided to stick with Jim Magilton for another year or so? Ask yourself the same question? I certainly feel the club could have been in no worse position than it is in today.

    That is not an attack on the management of Paul Jewell – he has taken on a very difficult job, and as far as I am concerned he has not failed at it yet.

    The reason I ask that question is simple. There is a growing tide of negativity towards Jewell, with many calling for his head. To me it just seems like déjà vu; first Magilton was hounded out by the fans, and then Roy Keane.

    In truth, I have no sympathy for the Keane era, if I had to point a finger I still would say the club is where it is now because of his glaring errors in the man management and contractual departments.

    A couple of weeks ago I wrote about the need for Jewell to bring in young players rather than the washed up old-timers that he had previously signed. While I stick by that view, it seems quite apparent that the signings of Jimmy Bullard, Ibrahima Sonko and Lee Bowyer were all attempts to plug the many holes Keane had left in the Ipswich ship.

    They could all still prove to be successes here, but it is comforting to see Jewell now looking at players who can honestly be considered the future of this club.

    We still find ourselves at the point where Jewell is fighting desperately to save this club from imploding, and falling into the dreaded League One. Indeed, the second half of this season is sure to be a rough ride.

    It was upon reading comments from former skipper Jason De Vos in the East Anglian Daily Times today that I realised the truth of the matter: Jewell needs to be given time, and lots of it. Not just to the end of the season, not just until Christmas even. May 2013 is the time when we can really begin to judge him.

    Good teams take a long time to build, and although it is something that Ipswich fans have heard over and over again, Sir Bobby Robson was given no fewer than FOUR mediocre seasons before he ever achieved anything of note – a fourth placed finish in the First Division. Look what he went on to achieve.

    Jewell is a very good manager, and if I am being brutally honest, we are lucky to have him – even if we do not realise it yet. You look at what he achieved at Wigan and Bradford with significantly fewer resources than he has here. It was remarkable.

    He needs time to tweak and experiment before he finally gets the formula right for Ipswich Town. That will surely come.

    As fans it is time for us to get behind the team and show our support. Players will be far more passionate about playing for this club if they know we have their back. I stand by my belief that Jewell must stay, because in the long-term it will pay off




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  2. ciderman

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    Is he still living in a hotel?

    If so,why?
     
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  3. white horse

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    yes thats his view but do we want to start our fight back from league one or maybe league two ,could well do with jewell the fool in charge happy days
     
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  4. raging eyejuice

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    its as if i wrote that myself. i agree with what he says, the club is still struggling to erradicate twot keanes magnificent managerial cock up era.
     
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  5. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    I echo what Gus says what Gus says what Gus says
     
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  6. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    How anyone can say that Jewell has a clue is byond belief.

    One example of his wonderful management is using FOUR different Keepers in just half a season! Is he going for a new record?
     
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  7. Spanish

    Spanish Well-Known Member

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    For me its a hard one as the players that Jewell is now trying to sign are far better than what he signed before. He made mistakes and has said that he is learning from the mistakes. Is the aparent failure to land any of these targets down to Jewells 'out of touch' valuation or down to Clegg and Evans. If Keane is to be believed then much of it could be down to Clegg but we will never know what really went on there!!

    I think Jewell has got alot wrong and i blame him for the current mess we are in but i don't think that changing the manager before end season will do us any good. I did but now its toooooo late, he knows the players etc so must now be given the job to guide us out of the mire!! This is why he needs the backing of everyone from the top to the fans, lets not make his job any harder, after all we want to stay up and good support will go a long way to helping achieve this!!

    **** me, i can't believe i have just said all that!!
     
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  8. raging eyejuice

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    i think jewell did a good job keeping us up last season, proving that he does have some idea.
     
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  9. raging eyejuice

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    well said
     
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  10. wellyblue

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    Tactically inept, no natural RB, playing Edwards and Bullard out of position, playing Leadbitter at all, staying with the diamond when everyone had worked it out, poor substitutions costing us points, poor loanee goalkeeper costing us points, unable to secure transfers, over a year to sort it out...


    Unbelievable!
     
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  11. San Diego

    San Diego Sir Mediator Forum Moderator

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    A tough one to call. I don't want to keep changing managers but I don't want us to get relegated either. It's true that most good squads are built over the course of a couple of years, unless of course, you inherit a good squad (which PJ didn't). It's a dangerous game to keep someone in charge who is not getting the results needed but can be equally bad to keep swapping managers every time you hit a bad patch. If PJ stays I guess only time will tell if it was the right choice. The other thing to consider is who would replace him. If other managers out there see that we give up on someone in bad times that might be a telling factor in their decision to join us. As somebody said, was Keane right about Clegg's inability to close the deals he wanted, leaving him with no choice but to look elsewhere at poorer options that weren't his first pick. It must be frustrating to identify a player you really want to bring in and then not see that fulfilled by your CEO.
     
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  12. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    SD I think you can safely say that 8 points out of 48 and 52 goals conceded is bad! Any other football club would have fired his sorry arse after the Burnley thrashing!
     
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  13. San Diego

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    I'm not disputing that at all JWM, but we didn't and he's still here. So what now? Like I said, it's a risk either way.
     
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  14. johnnywarksmoustache

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    I am beginning to think that he will be here until at least the end of the season. I think you are right that sacking him now with only a few days left of the window wouldn't achieve anything other than more instability. Jewell should have been sacked directly after the Burnley humiliation. It will be a bumpy ride for the rest of the season and if we stay up it will be DESPITE Jewell.
     
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  15. shifty

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    Here here<applause>
     
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  16. San Diego

    San Diego Sir Mediator Forum Moderator

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    Not because it's PJ, but because he's manager of my club, I would love to see him turn it around. It would be great to be able to look back on these rough times and laugh if he becomes a success. Not sure it will happen though sadly.
     
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    If we stay up it will be because we will have managed to get a defence in place in this window, if we haven't then it'll be more of the same, more excuses, and League 1, I really wish that I could put a more positive spin on it, but I can't!!
     
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    I'm certainly stuck in 2 minds. I think given time and Jewell will be successful with us but this season is a real worry, a real worry, his record has been beyond atrocious this season and defensively this is the worst I have ever seen town but if we can just get out of this season a remain in the championship I am actually optimistic about our future under Jewell but whether he's the right man to keep us up who knows.

    Whilst I agree with the sentiment of giving managers time, they shouldn't be given time for times sake. There's no doubt we would be in a better position now if we would have kept Magilton but although I never called for his head and would have liked him to continue as manager I can see why he was dismissed and there was certainly an argument for getting rid. The mistake came when we appointed Keane, he is the worst thing to ever happen to our club, if Jewell would have been appointed them I actually think we would have been a premier league team by now or certainly challenging at the right end of the league. What followed was disastrous, he ripped the heart out of our club, he ruined us getting rid of alot of talented young players and players and staff who offered stability to our club and then to keep him for so long to make sure he properly ruined us was the worst mistake.

    Jewell took over a complete mess and the only reason we got out of it last season was down to McAuley and Bullard, Bullard has not hit the heights this season and McAuleys contract situation was a complete farce which Jewell really couldn't do anything about. The problem is he came into a club who had very few players yet big ambitions and tried to get the club competitive straight away and signed some very talented but older players. This has shown to be a mistake but all those players had decent seasons last year, so the situation we find ourselves is a bit of a shock and although we certainly aren't the best of teams I cannot believe the amount of individual errors that are continuingly being made.

    I do agree with the sentiment of the article but reading it, you wouldn't be able to tell we are in a relegation fight and to say we are lucky to have Jewell, I don't know where that has come from really.

    and Spanish whats happened to you?? you've changed!! But seriously I agree with your points it would be wrong to sack him now.
     
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  20. Resurgam

    Resurgam Top Analyst Staff Member

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    If you get somebody else in, would they be able to get any new players in?

    If you get someone else in, can they make the players you have got - or are stuck with in some cases - play any better?
     
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