I haven't felt like posting much over the past week or so (especially after Saturdays disappointment) but I'm back with one of my signature threads to provide us with a little relief from our poor run of 1 win in 5 games. A little distraction, and not entirely Charlton related: 1) The top ten things you love in football 2) The top ten things you hate in football Whether they be sights, sounds, smells, players or memories of a game, I look forward to reading.
Lovely thread J'aime: 1 Tubby Topless Fans 2 Seeing a fellow Charlton fan in an unusual place 3 That final bit just before kick off when the ref counts the plays and you forget yourself 4 The drive home where you are suddenly Alan Hansen 5 Phil Parkinson 6 Telling a people you are a Charlton fan and them not quite understanding why 7 People watching the crowd around me 8 Chris Solly's long throws 9 The diversity of opinion 10 The fact that football can create a solid bond with anyone quicker than anything else Je deteste: 1 Alan Pardew 2 Sky 3 Career Players 4 The Premier League 5 The naive ignorance that to be a football fan is to be an uneducated Sun reading gimp 6 Glory hunters 7 How people still get jobs when they're clearly useless (See Alan Pardew) 8 The cost of loving 9 Lee Hughes 10 Players younger than myself making thier way in the game (I'm fairly young and bitter)
Cheers Kish Love: -the smell of the hotdog stall -madly celebrating a (last minute or against a rival) goal (hugging strangers/people falling over/smiles and laughs all around) -away days -the excitement of the transfer window -gallows humour in chants -the 3rd round FA Cup draw -taking the moral highground by abusing the likes of Lee Hughes, Marlon King etc -the relief when the oppositions goal is ruled offside -players actually reacting to fan chants (whether appreciating them like Semedo, or shoving it back in their face like Adebayor) -players scoring on their debut (especially if I've hardly heard of them before signing) Hates: -Newcastles success so far under Pardew -Premier League clubs taking credit for the development of players who, in reality, they brought from lower league clubs once they had developed -Sky -Lee Hughes and his dance -The silence of the home stands contrasted with the deafening nice coming from the Jimmy Seed when the oppo score -rubbish Charlton players doing well at other clubs -the lack of loyalty in football -songs such as "you used to be good, but now you're ****" -the smell in the North Upper after everyones digested their half time burgers and hotdogs -embarrassingly aggressive and abusive Charlton fans (generally only seen at away games/cup games)
Also (though that would take it up to 11), I hate how any remotely controversial chants are condemned by the media and FA. Many probably won't agree with me but I think it destroys the whole concept of freedom of expression, as well as the fact that most 'abused' players earn more in a year than most earn in their lifetime. If somebody offered me a couple of millions pounds but it means a few thousand people shout sing stereotypical songs about my nationality, or about what promiscuous acts I get up to on a Friday evening, I'd gladly receive the money.
I love - The Red Red Robin - The ridiculous devotion to a cause, no matter how hopeless, when you know defeat is most likely but you still turn up in hope - Old grounds - not many left now, but places like Goodison Park should be preserved, at least as a museum when Everton do leave - FA Cup shocks (except when they involve us) - The feeling when Charlton score a really good goal - Ian Holloway - Standing on terraces - Peterborough is the best example, especially when we win 5-1 ;-) and jumping all over the place when we score - Seeing home grown players come good - Chris Solly is perhaps my favourite player at the moment - A striker who scores lots of goals - The Englishness of Oldham playing Rochdale on a freezing Tuesday night in December in front of 2000 people I hate - The Premier League - why should it be separate from the football league - When the best players resort to cheating (Maradona) - Floods of average foreigners - Thierry Henry etc I love, but when Amdy Faye and Djimi Traore play regularly in the PL, something is wrong - The noise when the away team scores at The Valley - Soulless modern grounds like the Ricoh, King Power etc - Too much money - People who do nothing but moan all game - Endless criticism of referees - they have an impossible job - Teams that dominate, like Man U, Barcelona, Bayern Munich etc - Diving -
like : 1. waking up knowing you got a match to go to 2. feel good factor after a win 3. drawing the formation on the program and explaining to the gf 4. burger and fries 5. banter with the guy in ladbrookes in the north 6. the into the valley entrance vid 7. explaining to new charlton supporters (mates who moved here) about the old games they show 8. half time score check 9. some of the funny songs 10. taking out crap weeks as boo's/songs, getting the aggro out. dislikes 1. the guy sat behind me. claps at ear level really damn loud 2. alan pardew 3. crystal palace 4. gary doherty 5. "boo boys" 6. people who think football is rubbish, usually cos they dont get it or have 1 minute attention spans 7. the queue to the cash machine 8. match choices on sky 9. journeymen players 10. simon jordon
Likes Grunting The melee when a goal is scored, especially in a big match or away The Red Red Robin The walk up to an away ground I've never been to before - getting lost, spotting the floodlights and just following them (at away games) the middle aged bloke (sometimes with his kid) in the middle of an empty home stand who starts giving it from the comfort of his seat and gives up after about 20 mins The tunnel jump and variations of it away from home The 'argh' chant that sometimes starts at away games after the goal kick 'you're **** aaaaaargh' Fans reacting to players reacting to chants Mario Ballotelli England at major tournaments. Believe me, I wish Ireland were as successful as England, and I do genuinely wish England well, but it doesn't stop me from enjoying the 'we're definitely going to win' turn to 'ah they'll come good, just you wait' to burning effigies of the players. Dislikes Debt Stupid chants at away games (your ground's too big for you, for example, also hated that rape chant at Bramall Lane) The Addams Family (mostly because it's catchy) The baldy muppet at Notts County At Walsall last season, listening to two fans spend the entire first half shouting abuse at Robbie Elliot (right in front of them) Milton Keynes ITV Aggro Blatter Administration (I've lost all sympathy for 'poor old Plymouth/Portsmouth/Palace/Stockport/Luton/Bournemouth/Leicester/Southampton/Swindon/etc'). 10 pts and everything smells of roses. NOT trying to claim either Charlton or Dundalk are immaculately run (far from it), but I would prefer well-run clubs all round to the gamble-on-your-future-screw-the-local-businesses culture
Like: Spending every other Saturday at the Valley with my 8 year old Our club and what it stands for Messi Players who make the game look ridiculously easy Following players on Twitter TSF (The Secret Footballer) in The Guardian The build up to games Meeting mates in the pub to watch a game Chatting to people I don't know but I just happen to sit next to and it being OK Always having hope Dislike: The over hyping of some players Post match interviews (just an opportunity for managers to slate the ref and other team) Pundits Dirty or stroppy players being misunderstood and are really just 'passionate' Greed in the game The lack of coverage of the lower leagues Being reminded we used to be in the Premiership The failure of Hillsborough victims' families to get justice The ridiculous fines handed out to clubs/countries for racist abuse FIFA
Like : Charlton Goal celebrations Match of the Day The covered End The 5`o clock feeling after a win Remembering the good old days 1974 and 1978 world cups Holland at 1974 1978 world cups Dennis in the last minute All my cybermates on Not606 Dislikes Crystal Palace Selhurst Park Palace Winning simon jordan Clinton Morrison Glad all over Neil Warnock Joey Barton Feeling at 5 o clock on a saturday when we have lost The football league show
like ghost hunts most haunted charlton fc not 606 time team chart music dvd latest films deal or no deal lotto billy connolly eiemem all charlton fans my family hidden football lge show match of the day merlin f1 fifa 12 usa dislike c palace arsenal west ham moose on talk sport cant stand him all west ham this and that gloating gooner fans winds me up! x factor cant stand all the crying every time tv interviews acts euro millionaires latest lot! tony blair mps lying cheating whatsits!87 days holiday now joke! indians yapping every 5 minutes loudly
JA- you failed to keep your likes and dislikes to football. Anyway, please clarify what you mean by 'Indians yapping every 5 minutes loudly'. Thank you.
i think im going get headphones or leave eiemem on all day loud,in fact someone did that once when his neighbours had an all night party put 80s channel full wack
