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a lesson from bayern.

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  1. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    The year is 2007, german football is in shock. It biggest club, its moat successful club fails to qualify for the champions league. Disaster surely. The end of bayern, no hope left...

    Sound familiar? It should. This is how we are viewed just now. Doom, gloom, hopelessness... Fear not though...

    Since that humbling season bayern have well, taken overz they signed players still, players of the highest quality. They bounced back and did so with a bang.

    Champions the season after, and again in 2010, champions league finalists in 2010, 12 and 13 winning the latter.

    The lesson here is the elites dont fall. They may get knocked down but they always bounce back. United just need to look at bayern and how you can fall from grace and just a few seasons later be kings again.
     
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  2. Drogs

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    If you strengthen and have the young players coming through like they did back then, then sure.
     
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  3. Christiansmith

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    Not from me! As long as the executive and the owners (the Greedy Gs) bear in mind that United need investment and the rightful place of the club is at the top, United will be back sooner or later. I am old and patient. <ok>
     
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  4. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I'm undoubtedly asking for trouble here, but. Liverpool?
     
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  5. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    What about them ?
     
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  6. chelsea - over 100 years of history

    chelsea - over 100 years of history Well-Known Member

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    You are also talking about a league where you have one super club and then another tier. Dortmund had 2 brilliant seasons but are now struggling to keep hold of their better players because Bayern have taken them. Gotze and Lewandowski were the 2 best players for Dortmund the year they reached the C.L final, both now at Bayern. United simply couldn't take the 2 best players from City or Liverpool for example.

    United are the biggest club but not in the way Bayern are in Germany. With City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool in England plus the odd surprise packages (Everton, Spurs perhaps), it will be a harder task IMO than it was for Bayern getting back amongst it. Plus Bayern have had some quality players come through the youth ranks in that time which have saved them a lot of money, which simply United really haven't done for a while (Janujaz shows promise though).

    United will come back of course but I don't think too many parallels can be drawn as the respective circumstances are so different.
     
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  7. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Not an elite club in modern football.
     
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  8. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    Not really, you did good in a very poor season of football
     
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  9. chelsea - over 100 years of history

    chelsea - over 100 years of history Well-Known Member

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    I think his point was that a massive club can fall and struggle to get back amongst it, i.e Liverpool's 2 decades without a title after dominating English football in the 70/80's.
     
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  10. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Thank **** for someone showing some nous. Not a united supporter either <whistle>

    Just the usual bollocks from them <laugh>
     
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  11. chelsea - over 100 years of history

    chelsea - over 100 years of history Well-Known Member

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    :biggrin:.
     
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  12. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    No custard. It was a poor season of football. For united. Other than that it was a great season of football. The season before. Now that was ****ing poor <ok>
     
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  13. chelsea - over 100 years of history

    chelsea - over 100 years of history Well-Known Member

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    I think it's been very poor since 2010 in the P.L. That year was epic, almost as good as 2006. ;)
     
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  14. Matth_2014

    Matth_2014 Well-Known Member

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    Also Van Gaal is credited for the way Bayern play as well.
     
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  15. Christiansmith

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    This is exactly the reason why the RS fans are both deluded and ******ed.

    last season it was for the RS a blip of success against a backdrop of continuous mediocrity whereas for United it was a blip of mediocrity against a backdrop of continuous success <ok>
     
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  16. chelsea - over 100 years of history

    chelsea - over 100 years of history Well-Known Member

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    They probably said the same in those first few years. It remains to be seen if United get back to where they were....
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Either you're deliberately choosing to miss my point, or you are as thick as pig ****. Which is it?
     
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  18. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    I don't those options are mutually exclusive mate
     
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    The continuous success began and ended with Fergie, last season proved that without the right man in place Utd are now a top 7 club, I'm not saying LVG won't have success at Utd but nothing is guaranteed in football.
     
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  20. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    On hearing this news Matth didn't react well............


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