FFS Roley, what's the point then..? If he thinks all fans will put up with the s**te we've been served up for much longer, he's in for a shock... Sell your best players, bring in a load of gambles... Same old, same old... Surely the majority of fans must be getting fed up with this eternal merry go round of proven failure... L1 will be one dip too far, and many fans will vote with their feet, if that happens... "I will sell our best players", âI am in favour of financial fair play", "I want to break even", The challenge in the future is to combine good results with financial equilibrium...â So we eventually get a rich f--ker, but the philosophy remains the same... "Let's do it on the cheap"... Can somebody pick off any positives out of this..? http://wall.cafc.co.uk/Event/CAFC_Wall I'm still waiting for the "two to three quality loan signings... The Charlton bollotics continues..
it was a bit "meh" we knew all of that before. i'm worried that all of this off field razzle dazzle is a smoke screen for the results we've had lately and trying to buy a bit of patience. the good news is CP will get time to rebuild, i think he deserves it. but from this news conference we got nothing. they shouldve announced a signing at least
Pretty much what I was expecting to be honest. A lot of blah blah blah (my daughters Furbies do a similar thing) and not a lot of substance. In the short term, I think the value of our club may shrink alarmingly. Your choice RD.
He is right though, a football club is not just about winning games. It is all well and good if we go and sign a load of players and start picking up 3 points every game, but then the inevitable happens and we have an enormous wage bill and end up in huge debt. Then before you know it you end up massively in the brown stuff and spiral out of control. Back in the prem days we did not win every game, nobody will ever win every game. We need a stable, sensible approach that allows us to keep our better players, sign players we think will do the job for us within reason, and build from there. Was not a million years ago that approach very nearly got us European football, but it was the moaning of fans back then that caused knee jerk decisions that then got us into this mess in the first place. I am all for moaning, we have a lot to be annoyed about as Charlton fans, but why moan about a guy coming in who wants to replicate the most successful time in the clubs recent history?
If Roland wants success through the Academy he must get Poyet to sign an extended contract. We all know that even if he signs one he will be able to leave for a decent price, but as it stands we could lose him for next to nothing; at least Shelvey did his best to make sure we would get something for him.
His philosophy doesn't allow us to keep our better players though does it..? He's sold 3 of our better ones already... We only came close to European football with our best player Parker on board... it fell apart after that, and got worse by the end of that season with the loss of Rowett, Rufus, DiCanio, and Jenson... This was the season the decline began... Those quality players could not be replaced, even by the great Curbs, not with Murray's resources... Selling your best players has its consequences, the inevitable poor performances & results follow... Roley thinks he has a great strategy that will make money, he thinks his franchise with it's pool of players is going to help, but in reality he's rich enough to sit on any talented player he has, then sell for millions, and unlike Murray he has the clout to play hard ball on time of sale & price... This plan has never produced sustainable success at any club... The only difference here is we're part of a franchise that has a pool of scouts & players that may help us... So why in our hour of need, in a relegation battle, we look no better off, and come out of a transfer window selling our best, and talking about loan players in February..?
Kermo and Stephens being sold was stupid i grant you, but Stephens has wanted shot for a very long time and Kermo was not happy with Powell not being offered a contract. Short time i was furious Kermo went, i loved the guy, but long term, it makes financial sense to sell him. What people are not seeing here is that we are not at the start of a season, we are over half way through and when the new board came in things wee hardly spic and span. A lot of work needs to be done but most of it will be done in pre-season. That is when we will see the first signs of what to expect. We can stay up, just about. Reza looks a good signing, Thuram has been cack so far but i see that more down to needing time to get used to his defenders and settling in a bit. All season our problems have been widespread, but the uncertainty of it all has been the most damaging. If we can get SCP his new contract as soon as possible, things will settle in the dressing room and players can focus on things game by game. We stay up, next season we could find we are back in that positive mindset and things start to click again. If we go down, we need to dust ourselves off, and go again. This season in my opinion has been one of the very worst i have ever experienced, the stress and bickering amongst fans says it all, we are worried and were left well out of the loop for too long, which ended up turning into distrust. I am going from optimism to despair and back again so often this season it is unreal, as i am sure are most of you. Imagine how it must feel to be Powell, or the players. If that gloom goes away, the fans will stop bickering, the players will be calmer and more confident, everyone can focus and then who knows what can happen. All i know is, some fans have aimed all that stress and annoyance in the direction of Chris Powell, and some continue to do it. If we stay up, sort the pitch out and let Powell actually prepare for a season in the Championship the right way, things will be very different
I might not use the same tone as Typical or V-a-v, but let's say I share their reservations about whether Sir Chris is the right manager to lead us to success through the Academy, which I believe is a realistic ambition. The decision is Roland's.
Dont want to worry you FHB but have you seen this article on Poyet in the South London Press... http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/S...idfielder Poyet: My dad is my toughest critic Poyet’s contract with the South Londoners is up at the end of the season. He is prepared to wait until the end of the campaign before weighing up his options. Poyet said: “I’m looking forward to seeing what happens and where we are at the end of the season. Then we can sit down and talk about contracts. You never know, they might not want me to sign and I’ll have to find a new club.
RD seems prepared to swallow a totally unnecessary, preventable relegation this season. Maybe because he gets to pay £4m less to Jiminez if we go down. What he has failed to grasp are the knock on effects of relegation. We may have Belgian beer on tap next season, and stewards who speak English rather than Urdu or Polish, and earn £7 an hour rather than £6.....but it is all rather counter productive when we only have 8,000 coming through the turnstiles. Of course football is "all about winning" because without a serious product on the pitch, all of the fripperies...the museum, the charidee work, CAST ego trips etc, are irrelevant.
But is relegation preventable? It's been a while since we've been able to attract decent players to Charlton, unable to compete with fellow-strugglers like Millwall or Doncaster. Why should Roland trust CP's judgment on loanees anyway? I defy anyone to defend his record in this respect.
the rebuild will start in the summer. at the moment we're patching gaps to get us to that point. if we stay up it's a massive bonus. palace are a proper sh1t attraction, they've been able to attract good players this year. it's all about money and the scouting network. they've done that in the course of one summer, and so will we. 18 games to go, a lot to play for, a lot of home games. we can do it, it'll be tight though
If Polish Pete is a dud we're doomed. If he is the dog's testicles it would give us a lift and we might just turn the corner, especially if he can form a partnership with Goochi. That's what I hope we'll see tomorrow. If Sordell starts I don't think I could take 90 minutes.
I'm seething about this, A4L. It really strengthens my complaint that the manager ought to attend the U-21 games, where Poyet has been demonstrating his class all season. In fact last season I predicted that he would be outstanding in the U-21's as soon as he was promoted to them, and he would be in the first team this season. 2 or 3 months ago in the match-day program he said he was desperate to get some game time, a loan to a L1 club or anything to get the gaffer to notice him, yet after he came in and played well the Gaffer said he had been thinking about playing him for a couple of weeks! Well now that everyone knows how good he is it's too late, the time to get him on a longer contract has gone.
This is worst possible position to be in. A weak manager, a weak side, a chairman that is conducting some pioneering test on his own judgments at the costs of a club he barely knows, and certainly does not love. He is not fighting off relegation meekly accepting this as an inevitable consequence (possibly due to some reduction in the price of buying the club) and wants to build again, no doubt glorifying he calls if it works, how long will it take? and what price? and will it succeed? Get another guinea pig Roly your a dick. I am sick of the apathy of this club. the plastics revolutionaries in the stands and the meek, puddle jumpers that wear our club shirt. And the real turd in the swimming pool, is they talk about renewing contracts and rewarding failure. What the hell has happened to this club?
well, without these revoltionaries, guardian readers, prawn sandwich munchers and plastics you'd be supporting a club the size of southend or dagenham. deal with it.
Its not about the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. This club should have some self respect. Rolling over is not the CAFC way. at least not in the 30 years Ive been going.... If you want to be a pussy, supporting a pussy club, alongside other pussy supporters, then you may well get your wish.....
oh no, the big dog has typed furiously.... you are not a supporter. if you were, you would support. you have a habit - you turn up to games. i cant remember who said it, but cant you put this same opinion of yours on one thread, instead of every other thread. i can only peak at this a couple of times a day and its a thorough waste of time reading you say the same thing in different ways all the time. you are not the only fan that counts.
Spoken like a true plastic, prawn munching, guardian reader. Some fans demand effort and pride others obviously not. Peak a couple of times a day? what peak out from under your duvet?
