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Off Topic 50 Dead And 53 Injured

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  1. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    The worst ever mass murder by a single gunman happened last night in the US in a Gay nightclub, not only does it bring into question the right to purchase and possess arms in the US but also the FBI knowing the shooter was a jihadist months ago.
    What can the western world do to prevent the sporadic massacres like Paris and Florida?

    The jihadists like to portray it as a battle between religion's, most people in the western so called Christian world have religious tolerance and understanding.

    God bless the victim's of the senseless murders in Florida.<rose>
     
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36507546

    This also happened a day or two ago, such tragedy.

    I'd seen a few of her videos on YouTube and I had also seen her on the US version of the Voice which she went on to win (I think), she was only 22 (my age!! :() and she had a great voice too.

    It's so tragic, my heart goes out to all of their family.

    Rip <rose>
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I see trumps all over this attacking Obama and Clinton

    Americans are strange.

    This guy must've been quite disciplined cos he was under scrutiny for a while and escapes active watch list somehow... like.... the guy is a us citizen who's parents are in US and Mr trump ploughs in saying Muslim immigrants should be banned...

    Amazing really

    50 dead and here's trump blustering. Only time will tell if he wins support from it.
     
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    just awful tbh


    humans are ****ing disgusting sometimes
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Pisses me off greatly that trump has turned the mass murder of 50 innocents into an election points scoring farce, he can build his pathetic wall to keep out the Mexicans but stopping Jihadism in the US should be his priority and also the freedom to purchase guns.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    There is one thing nobody will tackle is their gun fetish.

    Obama managed to get big ammo clips banned and that was it.

    I would probably have to wonder if many actual real veterans agree with the big egos who run about thing they are Rambo in usa. I really think it's only the last 20 odd years it's go this nuts with assault rifles

    I remember seeing some bank job where some guys had ak and cops shot guns on tv and it was like oh wow not good. I honest to God think they've gone way up their own arses and need to wake up.

    I hope some loon doesn't say if someone had a gun in there then less would have died.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Usually, when there's a school/college massacre in the US the Rifle Association blurt out the point you made in your last post, however their silence will be deafening in the aftermath of this because a Muslim terrorist took advantage of the rights they hold so dearly.
     
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    That's exactly what the gun lobby will say though.
    Every time something like this happens the response is always the same, more arms to counter it - the mad ****ers just don't get it, and they never will.
    A while back I posted this link, but for anyone who missed it at the time. It's only up to the end of 2015, but it makes astonishing and horrific reading.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34424385
     
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    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    The hate in this world makes me despair. Is everyone supposed to be the same, have the same values, same wants and desires? Whatever two consenting adults want to do is up to them why is that so hard to understand? If you don't like the thought of it, then think of something else.

    Utterly tragic. How this is twisted to be Obama's fault is just breathtaking. Demagogues just have no shame, class or humanism.
     
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    ****ing tragic and sickening, the place is imploding and of course the twisted irony is that the gays take the worst hit in their recent history because of the ultra-conservatives fatuity, selfishness and death-wish

    It's depressing what's going on all over the world atm, thugs on the loose in France, middle east blowing itself to kingdom come and this in America
     
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    Don't forget that the victims were gay, or the majority were or were sympathetic and liberal minded being in a gay club, so they don't exist to these people or they don't see them as human or as having any rights; with kids they are at least compelled to offer a cursory message of condolence even if secretly most of them wish it was them on the trigger side of the gun
     
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  13. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    I am not condoning being gay, but they do not deserve to die.That batard was playing GOD.
     
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    Why will God sort them out for being gay mate?
     
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    According to Islamic tradition, Lot lived in Ur and was the son of Haran and nephew of Abraham. He migrated with Abraham to Canaan. He was bestowed as a prophet to the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. His story is used to demonstrate Islam's disapproval of rape and homosexuality
     
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    If we're looking at it that way I'm pretty sure any God didn't put gay people on earth to be massacred by some knobhead with an assault rifle, unless you want to take the view that religion is necessarily violent and God is vengeful and angry and out for blood, as ISIS do, which is a manipulative and crazed way of contorting religious texts to endorse a savage ideology. Who are humans to judge on God's behalf anyway? There's a gulf of difference between 'disapproval' and putting bullets in people in some club's toilets. The ISIS claim to this seems tenuous at best anyhow, they're linking themselves to him in a desperate attempt to gain traction even though it seems like the shooter was self-motivated
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    All I can say is when there's a need for a gay nightclub which is after all in today's world segregation or sorts (unless preferred) and there's people of all faiths calling gays sinners then there's issues going to occur.

    Sin is the ultimate subjectivity.
     
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  18. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    He who have not sinned should cast the first stone.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Well said.

    This in my opinion supersedes all other directions, at least in the bible of course.
     
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