38 days is apparently the time frame in which we now judge a manager as a success or failure. And that's after nearly two years of successfully managing under really difficult circumstances. How long do we give the "new guy" whoever he may be?
Home form did for him in the end, Sunderland and Norwich were the key games, win those and 23 points is a comfortable position to be in for a run of favourable fixtures to come. Football is a results business they keep telling us and 2 points from 8 games in the PL = P45...
True enough.Sunderland was always going to be hard with MON just in. Norwich: game-altering bad officiating. Man U: £150m + against whatever we're worth. WBA - see Norwich. Then you've got Arsenal away, Liverpool away, Norwich away, Swansea away. However this pans out, I'd be surprised if I ever change my belief NW has been treated appallingly. All hail the new business model.
Agree entirely, Warnock only had a few days to make signings in the scramble at the end of the window and did well to get those he did, the Championship side were never good enough to make the step up and Taarabt's failure to spark the team also contributed to the team's plight. I think the 15 points from the first 12 games gave everyone a distorted and over-optimistic view of the side's ability. I do wonder whether there was more going on behind the scenes contributing to the current run but I guess we'll never know. Let's hope the loss of Faurlin can be addressed in the window, that will be a massive loss...
and that is exactly what football is now. just another business whether we like it or not it is all about staying in the prem and getting the millions that go along with that
Try to keep the emotion out of it and it will be easier to see the logic behind the decisions. I'm grateful for what NW has done, he'll always be a hero at the club but he's a **** premier league manager. I think most of us suspected this, he had no track record at this level but we were all prepared to see what he could do. Sadly, he fluffed his lines. Now I don't care about NW, I care about the club. If it keeps us up, I don't care who we scr*w over tbh.
always knew at some stage he would have to take the blame for the results couldnt always be the fault of the bad refs or cheating opposition
Yep, it was that 3rd Sunderland goal that did for him. If they felt anything like the disappointment I did that night the Board will have been shopping for a new manager since that point. Stale and often inappropriate tactics is what killed him in the PL - even non-experts like Fernadez and Bathia can surely see that.
feel for warnock & i agree with his statement that if current board had neen installed a lot earlier & then the signings would have come, so he has the goons to thank for his sacking in one way. but then again picking up 1 point from home games against wba,sunderland & norwich is not good enough, if we had taken 7 points he would still be there, still life goes on onwards & upwards in the life of qpr.
I'll start now if you like - I WANT HUGHES OUT NOW! Useless manager, our only hope is that we are too small for him
It isn't about new players though is it? Look at Norwich, Swans, Sunderland, WBA examples of managers getting results under similar circs. Sir Neil needed system variations, plans to overcome obvious bad ref decisions and cheating (that happen to everyone); and to get under-performing players to function. Unfortunately wasn't up to the challenge. If he was, differences of opinion with TF over the likes of Yakubu, Samba or whoever, wouldn't have made much difference.
Completely agree Brix. The guys a legend for what he's helped us to achieve, but unfortunately he just hasn't cut the mustard in the Prem, and he has been given half a season to prove his worth. A lot of owners would have shipped the manager out straight away on taking over to put their own new guy in, so credit where credit's due for TF giving NW a chance. As TF said, onwards and upwards.
Bit like Malky Mackay (the player). If you wanted a CB to captain and guide a side out of the championship, he was your man. But after every promotion he got shipped out without playing a game in the Premier League. He knew it, his manager knew it, the fans knew it, everybody knew it. Someone are just meant for the Championship, hard but true. Whether Neil Warnock got the transfer window ruined by the Goons doesn't matter. He got dealt a poor hand before his PL comeback, tough luck, but TF can not take that into consideration. We're over halfway through the season and got three weeks left of the transfer window. We've had an alarming slide in the table AND in the performance of the team. For me TF hands were tied, if we are to survive it had to be done, end of. It would have been great to give Neil a full season, he certainly deserved to. But we would be relegated come may. Now Neil can go with his head held high and forever live in our memories as the legend he was. Never been so proud to call someone our manager as i was with Neil, and i hoped, and had belief that he could do it in the Premier League. But sadly it wasn't to be.
